• UsernameHere@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I didn’t see Chuck Schumer on the list of 8 democrats that voted against party lines for the government shutdown. But he seems to be getting blamed for it here on lemmy.

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      Because there’s basically two possibilities here, both bad:

      1. He had nothing to do with it, which means he has no control over what his own caucus is doing. That’s a failure of leadership, so he needs to go.
      2. He was involved behind the scenes, but was too chickenshit to put his vote on record. Not only is that a betrayal of everyone who is about to get fucked by their medical premiums, it’s also abject cowardice, so he still needs to go.

      Of course, he reportedly was actually involved behind the scenes.

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        I lean towards the third possibility that matches the timeline: Schumer is responsible because he voted to stay open this past spring and was also the one who initiated capitulating to the Republicans on Friday after the Dems steamrolled the elections which undermined party unity for healthcare demands.

        Since Schumer is the top Dem in the Senate he shares blame for these 8 just following through on what he started.

    • The2b@lemmy.vg
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      Right, because there are only a few options here, and none of them are good for Schumer: He was aware of the plan to vote for the bill, and couldn’t do anything to stop it. He is an incompetent and ineffective leader of the party in the Senate.

      He was aware of the plan, and agreed with it or spearheaded it: He, as leader of the Democrats in the Senate, wanted this and cosigned it, leaving him to blame (spoilers, but this is actually what happened)

      He was unaware of 8 separate Democrats colluding behind his back to vote for a Republican bill to end a MASSIVELY politically advantageous situation for the Democrats. Again, he is incompetent and should be fired.

      Of course, it’s pretty plain to see that their agreement was spearheaded by lobbied interests threatening to pull money out if they didn’t cave, given the massive advantage the shutdown have the Dems. No reasonable Dem would have voted to end it otherwise. And obviously, the Minority Leader would be involved heavily in those discussions.

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      It just so happens that no one who voted is up for reflection next year and will likely not face any consequences. Very convenient.