Oh the “I made it the fuck up” is actually a very popular meme, so although it’s aggressive, it was more a tongue-in-cheek reference than a direct attack to you as a person. The meme for reference

Anyway, the lab theory isn’t the most insane theory as it stands, and as you say, it’s not crazy at all to think of technicians being irresponsible. However, it does tend to share a lot of room with the actual conspiracy that COVID was a coordinated man-made attack, and in fact, the two were almost completely undistinguishable for a good chunk of the pandemic. To the point where I thought you definitely meant COVID being lab-grown as a coordinated attack, and not an accident, which I do believe is far more likely.

So yeah, Wikipedia is written by humans who do either have biases or who are too quick to judge situations. But overall, it is still one of the most impartial and reputable sources we have online.

As for Gaza, I definitely don’t think most people who feel icky calling it a genocide would be so hesitant if Israel weren’t a US ally, or allied with western values in general. Like I said, there is virtually no world where other non-allied governments doing the same thing wouldn’t be almost unanimously called a genocide, as shown by the Rohingya genocide, which is almost never questioned as such.

I think you replied to the wrong person (or at least I got the notification for your message), because yeah, I absolutely think Gaza meets the definition of a genocide.

“the source is that I made it the fuck up” for the COVID thing. Not a single reputable source says that.

I actually agree with the Gaza thing though. It’s fair to say that they should have added that as part of the first paragraph and not as the title of the article. At least initially.

But it’s also true that the only reason the Gaza genocide has become politicised is because of Israel’s status as a key US ally. If the exact same actions had been taken by a wildly unpopular government in the west like Iran, I’m sure no one would be complaining about it being called a genocide after so many reputable organisations have called it such as well.

Which begs the question: is the politisation really coming from those calling it a genocide or from those who don’t want to do so?

But… Literally the Gaza thing follows the definition of genocide, and has been called genocide by international governing bodies. What else do you want? I’m sure if there are other opinions, they can be added under a “controversy” tab, but the accepted definition of the Gaza issue was a genocide. Genocides don’t need to succeed in exterminating all members of a group to be considered such, they need to destroy the social fabric of a community either via forced displacement, mass murder or widespread violence. This is what happened in Gaza.

But I agree, debating Gaza in depth is not worth it here. I also agree many people were jumping the gun prematurely in pushing for a “genocide” tag before there was any official source claiming it, but after two years, the genocide tag was the most substantial and officially supported position, which means it’s the responsible way to frame the situation. You can add all nuance and opposing views later. For the record, if there had been no major international consensus reached on the use of the word “genocide”, I wouldn’t agree with including it as the main descriptor for this conflict.

Facts are difficult to measure, but the responsible thing is leaving the definitions to actual experts on the matter, even if experts can get it wrong. Because non-experts are prone to manipulating and misunderstanding key facts that then snowball into entire myths and belief systems.

You say the COVID lab leak theory is no longer a conspiracy theory, but I haven’t found a single reputable journal that supports that claim, so… What are your sources?