• stingpie@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    What’s important to note is that there has been a big shift in the goals and techniques of education. This most famously occured with “common core” math in the US. It was a push to teach math in a more intuitive way, one that directly corresponds with what children already know. You can physically add things together by putting more of them together, and then counting them, so they try to teach addition with that analog in mind.

    Prior to common core math, there was “new math,” which anyone under 80 years old assumes has always been the standard. New math was a push to teach math in a more understandable way, one that gradually introduced new concepts to ensure children understood how math works. This was satirized by Tom Leher in his song “New Math.” If you look up the song, you’ll see that new math mostly was implemented by teaching students how base-10 positional notation works, and then using that understanding to present addition and subtraction as logical algorithms.

    Prior to new math, the focus of math education was much more about getting the right answer, rather than the skills needed for problem solving using math. This allows for a higher breadth of education, as topics can be covered quickly, but each topic is understood in a shallow way.

  • potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br
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    16 days ago

    If I might say, schools in the past teached VERY badly (beatings were the least) and most of the time they only put people middle classed and above into them, if you were not at least middle class, you were in the mines. So comparing to today, people in the past, comparing socioeconomically, were a lot worst than today.

    It’s like comparing poor kids today agains the sons of kings in the middle ages, there were gaps in education, not everyone went to school in the past.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    In my experience, if you’re the smartest kid in your class, you’re not smart. You’re just in the wrong class.

    Also, if you’re the dumbest kid.

    But I’ll spot one further. Standardized testing exists to place students on a curve. You don’t want everyone failing. You don’t want everyone acing the exam. You want to be able to point and say “These are the good schools/students and the bad ones”.

    Coincidentally, the wealth, the politics, and the ethnic composition of the districts tend to speak far louder to exam performance. Schools that are targeted for privatization can suddenly find their students doing very poorly, year to year. Schools that have a partisan administrator with friends at Pearson can find themselves doing amazingly well, practically overnight.

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      16 days ago

      If there really were a single dimension axis of smartness, won’t there be a “smartest” and a “least smart” in every classroom? And if they’re in the wrong class and they leave, won’t there be two new pupils at the extremes? This argument of “you’re in the wrong class” always sounded elitist to me.

      The important is that the teacher tailors the teaching to the students. Spend more time on the ones who struggle, give extra stuff to do to the quickest (e.g. help teaching to other pupils).

      I’ve also always been against separating children by “intelligence”. Having a “smart” class and a “dumb” class is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

      That being said, there are children who have special needs and who require a teacher who has the proper formation to help them.

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        15 hours ago

        Sure but there are different ranges. If your entire year is on a scale of 0-100 and you need multiple classes then you split them up based on that scale. Of course its usually going to be a bell curve so you probably only need 1 or 2 high and low ability classes, the rest can be mixed from the middle.