So, the more speculation made about who bubba was – and I’m not sure it really matters for this post – tRump being big mad about trans people, wearing makeup so consistently, being so ashamed of who he is sexually attracted to that he’d do a foreign authoritarian’s bidding to destroy their adversaries (the US govt. and NATO) to hide evidence of such acts, would explain a bunch of things that previously seemed detached to me. What if the end to tRump’s saga is the discovery that he could have been an ally of LGBTQ+ had he only had good parents and be part of a generation that was more open to that lifestyle? On his deathbed, if it comes out he was just closeted, would there be more sympathy for him in historical texts and opinion?

not an endorsement or apology for his many, many crimes

I hate him and his enablers more than I can legally ever express outside of my head. This was just a thought I had after the last few days of speculation over recent emails and after some edibles had kicked in. I still think he definitely diddled kids, for sure, but that’s never been a deal breaker through time; pretty sure some states still have marriage legally available for 14yo kids with parental consent. However, knowing the median age of his supporters, and conservative vitriol toward the queer communities despite them seeming to crash Grindr whenever there’s a major conservative get together, I could see this sort of revelation feeling more damning for him and his support than the pedo stuff, alone, if it got out.

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    Even then, I wouldn’t have any sympathy for him. Like you said, he COULD have been an ally, he COULD have done something to make future generations not feel the shame he felt, but he didn’t. He clung to fame and fortune and inflicted even more suffering on many types of people.

    If anything, it would make me respect and sympathize even less than I already do.

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      Yeah, kind of how Hitler was Jewish, but decided that it was better to live in denial and destroy everyone else like him.

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        New genetic analysis has shown that Hitler had no Jewish ancestry.

        He did however have Kallmann Syndrome, a genetic sexual disorder characterized by an incomplete puberty, as well as genetic markers making him more likely than the general population to have had autism, schizophrenia, and/or bipolar disorder.

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          Being a Jew isn’t about genetics. It’s a fucking religion first and foremost. Do you think Hitler really cared about lineage when he was clearing out Jewish homes?

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            Being a Jew isn’t about genetics. It’s a fucking religion first and foremost.

            Oh, well in that case, Hitler still wasn’t Jewish. He was raised Catholic. Later described himself as “not a Catholic and not a Protestant, but a German Christian.”

            So how do you interpret someone saying “Kind of how Hitler was Jewish”? Seeing as how he wasn’t part of the religion, and given how “Jewish” is both a religion and an ethnicity? Because I interpret that as someone saying he’s part of the ethnicity, which was long rumored, and which was very recently shown not to be the case.

            Do you think Hitler really cared about lineage when he was clearing out Jewish homes?

            Yes? Eugenics was a big part of Nazi ideology.

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              Simple: They’d be misinformed on Hitler’s religion.

              Though again, if you think someone not being genetically of Jewish decent would spare them while they were living in a practicing household, then you’d be similarly misinformed on how bigotry functions. Especially when it reaches the point of actually herding up people under a fascist leader.

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                if you think someone not being genetically of Jewish decent would spare them while they were living in a practicing household, then you’d be similarly misinformed on how bigotry functions

                Where did I say that, or anything like it?

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                  It’s explicitly implied by the entire conversation? If you well-aktually someone when you’re not even going to disagree with the point, then you’re just being a dickhole muddying the waters.

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            Yes, and no.

            Obviously, someone with no Jewish lineage could convert and they won’t start developing the genetic traits of a Jew, but from what I understand, even they themselves consider themselves a different lineage than gentiles.

            Not unlike how people say they are Italian or Irish, even if they’ve never been to Europe.

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              Do you think Nazis practice that level of nuance when they’re rounding up people for death camps?