• Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    Time to add Toyota to the list of companies I am now boycotting. Fuck it’s getting to the point where I will need to live in the wilderness and make all my own shit from scratch, and ride a horse and buggy.

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    I just got my RAV4 a couple months ago after my Honda CR-V got totaled, this hurts to see.

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    3 days ago

    Wow, he’s really not reading the country very well is he? 2020, that was a 50/50 move, piss off half the country, earn the support from half of it. (again just talking on a purely business strategy), unless the millitary is about to buy a shitload of toyota’s, I don’t see how this isn’t a horrific play.

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      These people are living in a different world than the rest of us. He IS reading the room, but we aren’t even in the room that he’s reading.

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      He’s not vying for customers. He’s sucking up to Trump in the hopes of getting preferential treatment for his company

      We’ve seen over and over again, companies that praise him, or bribe him, are getting business advantages from the Trump administration

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        This is how fascism succeeds. Everyone falls in line and sucks up in the hopes of getting preferential treatment.

        People ask “how did the Nazis do what they did?”. This is how. This is exactly how.

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      Japan has a new far-right-populist/Maga adjacent government. I’m sure that also plays into it somehow - both on Trump’s side (“let’s give good deals to our friends in spirit”) and the CEO reading the room nationally. My first thought here is therefore opportunism, in its slimiest form.

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      I think the business strategy here is sucking up to a dictator who can decide on a whim that Toyota is now the only American car brand allowed to be American and sell American cars. Or that Toyota parts are exempt from tariffs. Or that Toyotas are subsidised with 300% ontop by tax payer money. Looking at the current situation I dont even think this is a bad decision from a purely capitalist viewpoint, but its cowardly as fuck.

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          Unfortunately they kind of are… it’s kind of the insanity of the system we live in… their car sales are down everywhere, but they are making more from government contracts and AI speculation.

          Which yeah was part of why my added exception was if the military is going to buy a shit ton of toyotas. Government perks have ot outweigh loss in sales

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            the words you are looking for are crony capitalism and has 0 to do with actual tesla output

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      3 days ago

      They’re a Japanese brand known for cheap, reliable, sensible cars, do they expect loyalty from the Make America Great Again crowd?

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        Except in North America, where a huge focus is on trucks. Just look at how some dipshit chud in Twitter got them to scrub a ton of their LGBT and DEI stuff by posting about their “woke” trucks when their did a pride flag Tacoma. They desperately want to take that market share as it’s far, far more profitable than stuff like the Camry.

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        I wouldnt be surprised if MAGAts buys more overseas than the average American. Their whole merch is made in Asia.

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          Buying overseas isn’t something kind of moral failure lmao bluMAGA. Who else but the skidoo dealership owner who drops 1K to fly to DC on J6 is paying 50K+ for a working class affect?

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              1. If the MAGAts do buy foreign, that’s not an effective line of attack, trying to out-nationalist the fascists by attacking them for buying foreign goods is depressingly in-line for libs whose only disagreement with Trump is aesthetic.

              2. If MAGAts aren’t buying the overpriced pick-ups Ford and GM are churning out, who is?

  • Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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    This is a really fucking weird time to board the trump train. Like, right now is ESPECIALLY a weird time in particular.

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    I’m currently considering new vehicles, and Toyotas have won the debate numerous times over the last 40 years, but they are now out of consideration until this CEO is gone. I don’t support Traitors or Pedophiles, nor those who do.

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    I mean, Asian culture does seem to have an unhealthy fascination with Nazis.

    As early as 2000, Time did a piece on the country’s Third Reich–themed bars. That trend never fully took off, but it’s still fairly common for Korean teens to cosplay as Gestapo agents.

    Known widely as Nazi chic, it’s different from the skinhead or punk swag you find in the West. The trend stretches beyond Korea—in China it was fashionable to dress up like Nazi officers in wedding photos, and a Hong Kong store once hung Nazi banners throughout their shop. In India, a Hitler boutique (with a swastika dotting the i) opened in Ahmedabad in 2012. In Indonesia, Soldatenkaffee, a bar named after a Parisian Nazi hangout and decked out with Hitler quotes and Third Reich flags, has (despite a temporary closure due to outrage) operated in Bandung since 2011; the Indonesia pop star Ahmad Dhani recently performed at a rally for 2014 presidential candidate Prabowo Subianto in Nazi regalia.

    But the worst offender in Asia is Thailand. In 2007, some Thai students had a Nazi-themed parade, and in 2012 a school held an SS sports rally. Some Thai language books that use Hitler in their exercises, and a Bangkok KFC knockoff briefly called itself Hitler and used the Führer’s face in place of Colonel Sanders’s. In 2013, the country’s top university had to apologize when students painted a giant mural of superheroes that included Hitler, with which they posed Sieg Heil-ing. And naturally they have Nazi-themed pop groups as well.

    And these are only the major, international-headline-drawing cases. From Cambodia to Japan to Myanmar, it’s fairly common to encounter vendors in markets selling swastika-adorned bike helmets, T-shirts featuring Hitler’s mustachioed mug, and Ché-esque Adolf posters of all sorts.

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      I saw this the other day and thought he was making fun of maga. But now I don’t know. Honda or shit, even Nissan at this point…the Pathfinder is like 8k below MSRP by me. For a bigger car and V6 compared to a 4runner.

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        I’m with you. After that stupid stunt, I will look at the Nissan, Honda and Mazda selection. Toyota is scratched off the list.

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          Yup. And my wife was set on the new 4runner SR5. Which was always risky because #1 it’s a turbo, it will always be more unreliable than an NA. With Honda and Nissan keeping their V6s, nissan with their ZF 9speed auto trans on Pathfinder, Frontier, Armada and Titan. Honda with their Honda 10speed auto and also keeping V6 on Pilot and Passport. It’s a tough choice between the two.

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    Am I going to have to get a bumper sticker saying I don’t support that shit? Dammit.

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      What do you mean why? Companies exist to make money not support moral causes or take a stand.

      If Trump’s replaced by leftist or whatever companies will change their tune immediately in the other direction. They don’t care about being hypocritical and they don’t give a shit that you are boycotting because the demented Dorito is a bigger threat to their bottom line at the moment.

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        Right but what are they actually getting from outwardly showing their support? Surely staying neutral in the public eye is better for business? They just pissed off half their US customers