[identical castles and ships are facing eachother, one side with EU colors, the other side with USA colors]

[EU side]

  • OUR BLESSED EUROPEAN UNION - Our enlightened union
  • Our glorious lobbying democracy
  • Our noble asymmetric trade deals
  • Our heroic Frontex

[USA side] THEIR BACKWARDS UNITED STATES

  • Their barbarous federation
  • Their wicked technofeudal oligarchy
  • Their primitive imperialism
  • Their brutish ICE

https://thebad.website/comic/good_imperialism_and_bad_imperialism

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  • breakingcups@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    So, we’re doing the false equivalence “Both sides bad” posting on this level too, now? It was bad enough when it was dissuading American leftists from voting by both-sidesing GOP and the democrats, now we’re supposed to believe Frontex is as bad as ICE and EU trade policy is as moronic as Trump’s baseless tariff farts?

    Note, this is not an invitation for you to tell the class the bad things Forex has done. I’m well aware. They’re not patrolling European streets rounding up people who don’t “look right”, without identifying themselves, in flagrant violation of the law, and without ensuring their kidnappees detainees receive due process.

    • Bad@jlai.luOPEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      This meme is proving itself true. People romanticize the EU too much and/or don’t know about what’s going on in here.

      I spend a lot of my free time helping migrants in my home country (France), they do get rounded up and sent in camps called “Centre de Rétention Administrative”, some really really really bad places. Our police has been controlling IDs of parents outside schools, doing surprise ID checks at workplaces, etc. for a very long time. What ICE is currently doing isn’t new to us. For example, earlier this year, we had a very public and pretty big ICE-like operation, and believe it or not, the general public cheered.

      Mate you tell me to not talk about Frontex, well too bad, I will. The official death count is now at 66 519 as of 2025. That’s just the documented death count, imagine what the real one is. We’re not even counting Libyan torture camps and other similar lovely places paid for by our taxes. Some of my friends lost family members because of Frontex, I won’t shut up about it just to please you. ICE is bad but it’s not an exclusively american evil, it’s a standard and expected incarnation of capitalist imperialism.

      Yes, I’m happy to be living in the EU rather than in the USA. I do think the USA is a much worse place right now. But the difference is much easier to argue about when you’re not on the wrong side of those massively murderous policies.

      TL;DR: We have our own camps. Greece has one that’s reminiscent of your Alligator Alcatraz. Chill tf out.

    • Bad@jlai.luOPEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      Oh if that’s something you actually want, hit me up whenever you think a meme deserves to be upscaled and if I have time I’ll do it.

      Remade this one too but I don’t think it needed a quality upgrade tbh it’s just for fun/to enlarge my collection of image replies: