To add to the discussion we had some month ago, where some people said the planned laws would never come to be and would never be a threat: proton decided to differ and to move parts of the infrastructure to other countries.
https://www.heise.de/en/news/Surveillance-Proton-relocates-parts-of-its-infrastructure-from-Switzerland-10538664.html
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Finally people are starting to wake up to this bullshit. They are not to be trusted
Yea, we had some discussions about that, but that isn’t the point.
A known player moving its IT due to changes in law is the point.
This is more or less an ad for a company with a CEO that has a pro-fascist agenda.
If the point was to illustrate something about laws in Switzerland then that should have been the subject of the article.
Would you people stop with that?
Yes, they fucked up. They’re far from perfect.
They’re still far better option than Google and Microsoft.
I’d rather host myself then use their services.
It is nice that you have the abilities, infrastructure and time to do that. Most people don’t.
I sometimes bake my own bread. But i know that this is not an option for most people, so bakeries are needed.
Well obviously it would be better to have more options of companies to choose from that protect my privacy and support my values.
However, this is the point of a boycott. One might think that would be the spirit of this community.
There are other email providers, some that don’t support fascists.
Calling praising fascists a “fuck up” is not a good look.
How about we support companies that dont support facists at all?
I’m losing track of who the good guys are. The most unethical e-mail companies involved in military or facisms in my view (and I’m no expert) are:
- Microsoft
Gray area would be Proton until I find out what material advantage - if any / their Trump-supporting member provides to fascism in the U.S. and beyond.
Better options as I see them (again, I’m not an expert):
- Tuta Mail
- Posteo
There’s a good breakdown of ethical option here: https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/technology/shopping-guide/ethical-email-providers
Proton isn’t perfect but it’s worlds better than gmail. I’m content with using their free tier, but not convinced to pay for their expensive plans.
Here’s another breakdown: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/
I got Mail plus with a discount, it’s their only service I really use anyway. Don’t think I actually made use of it. Registered some aliasses since I could, but don’t use them so +1 from me.
The discount is only for one year isn’t it? You’re gonna pay full price after that
