Senator Jeanne Shaheen just threw the minority leader under the bus.
Senator Jeanne Shaheen revealed that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer knew the entire time about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.
Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.
Aside from serving as further proof that the Democrats are failing to act as an opposition party in any meaningful way, Shaheen’s comments also reveal one of two possible scenarios. Either Schumer was scheming to end the shutdown behind the scenes, only pretending to be against it while pinning the blame on the eight people who aren’t up for reelection anytime soon, or he has no control over his party. Either way, it proves the need for Democrats to jettison the minority leader.
The voters handed the dems huge gains during the shutdown election, there’s no clearer way they could have signaled we were behind them, and yet they betray us.
It seems to me that this might have been a strategic move to get the best result out of the midterms. The Republicans have shown their true colors. Trump throwing lavish parties while conducting a legal battle in the supreme court to ensure that millions of Americans are denied the food aid that was specifically put aside for that purpose, is about as much political capital as you could hope to gain from this. But why is it so important to Trump, to see Americans starve? I believe the reason is that starvation is what you need to instigate a violent insurrection, and that’s Trump’s plan for staying in power indefinitely. He will declare a state of emergency, martial law, suspend the midterms until the present crisis is dealt with, etc. The Dems caving in denies him the chance to do this, while still showing the maga party for the evil bastards they are. And maybe we get to see the Epstein files now? I could be giving establishment Dems more benefit of the doubt than they deserve, but that’s how it looks to me.
Im not convinced. Trump has demonstrated time and time again he doesnt need to institute martial law to remain in power. All branches of goverment have capitulated to him and effectively given him the power of a king. I keep seeing “Trump wants violence so he can stay in power” and it really reads as “if you dont want fascism, make sure you roll over when confronted with it”
All branches of goverment have capitulated to him and effectively given him the power of a king.
It’s not 100% capitulation. There’s pushback here and there. And it’s a house of cards. In order to secure his position he needs to remove all potential opposition, including within his own party. There has to be a violent purge. Things need to be stepped up a notch.
Same goes for his oppression of the people. His recent use of the armed forces to intimidate and silence the people is just a dress rehearsal. Testing out the process.
“if you dont want fascism, make sure you roll over when confronted with it”
Democrats roll over all the time, and it’s infuriating, but just occasionally it might actually be the smart move. If the democratic process can still operate, it offers a way to hamstring this administration. And if not, it delegitimises their position to a point where organized large scale resistance is both feasible and necessary. That might work out better than full scale escalation right now.
Shaheen, one of the seven Democrats (and one independent) who dropped their demand for a guaranteed extension of Obamacare subsidies, spoke to Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade on Monday morning.
So she was bragging to Fox on her and her co-collaborators conservative bonafides.
Democrats as a party do have an issue with Republicans infiltrating…
The possibility of infiltrators is meaningless when the Democrats are themselves a pro-capitalist neoliberal party. Their fundamental class interests do not allow them to make reform that is beneficial to the working class. This is why whenever the Dems are in power they either outright refuse to do anything meaningful, or the reforms they do pass are so convoluted and means-tested-to-hell that they end up making things worse in some way.
this explains the perpetual right-wing movement of the government when it comes to social, ethnic and minority rights. “left-wing” parties do not reverse authoritarian changes in their terms of power, allowing the far right party to resume course when they toggle back into power.
You lost me when you called Dems neoliberal.
There are like 3 neoliberal democrats.
Democrats are mostly modern liberals.
Republicans are classical liberals and neoliberals.
Would it really hurt you to learn the definition of a few words? Reagan was the US neoliberal movement.
What are you talking about? Every President since Reagan has been neoliberal.
Sure if you are a Marxist Leninist.
Clinton embraced some neoliberal policy. Obama was not a neoliberal and tells me you don’t understand what neoliberal means. Biden was the most progressive president we have ever had lol. (Since FDR.)
But sure “neoliberal.”
Neoliberals believe in the de-regulation of capital, which has been the outcome of every president since Reagan, regardless of the words they use to win elections.
And Biden was progressive? Lol you really have no idea what words mean.
Billionaires are desperate to turn people away from the Dem party, because they can’t buy the next Dem presidential primary.
You’re pissed at Schumer? Good, he’s a giant ineffectual piece of shit
But now that he doesn’t have a corrupt DNC behind him, his days in office are numbered. So are the rest of the neoliberals and especially the ones who voted with republicans.
Don’t blame the party for what single digit number of assholes did. And definitely don’t leave the party by refusing to vote in Dem primaries.
Even if there’s nothing that could ever make you vote D in the general again, vote in every D primary and pull them left as hard as you can.
The only way neoliberals get the DNC back, is if people don’t vote in the next Dem presidential primary, a neoliberal squeaks thru, and if they become president, they name a neoliberal chair.
And neoliberals aren’t above sabotaging the Dem party to get the reins back.
It like the buy/sell ads for gold…
When billionaire owned media shits on the Dem party, it means the DNC is against billionaires.
When billionaire owned media supports the Dem party, it’s because they own it
Its not single digit. If 8 guys sold out there are way more behind them.
There is no hope left. The only cure for the corruption is to cut it out. Guillotines make for an excellent blade for excision.
Part of the reason there is no hope is comments like these.
You aren’t going to do that, so stop focusing on fictional power fantasies.
As opposed to what? Fantasies on voting ourselves into progress? Fantasies on believing some candidate is going to save us? We all voted for Bernie in 2016. We’re all voting against Trump. America is pissed. Where is our outrage supposed to be aimed at and what can we do?
A progressive revolution by force isn’t going to work if you don’t have a progressive majority. If you’re waging a civil war, it’s a toss up who will win. But if you do have a majority, you can also just vote more progressives into power.
Either way, you’re going to have to convince a lot of people to join your side. That’s the first step: awareness, protests. And the recent election victories show that it’s working. Keep building this so you win all the seats in the midterms.
As opposed to what? Fantasies on voting ourselves into progress?
These aren’t fantasies. They’re at least plausible.
Fantasies on believing some candidate is going to save us?
Beliefs that any one person can save you are part of the problem.
We all voted for Bernie in 2016.
Yeah, and you keep voting for progressive elements within the only party that is even possible to shift towards that element until you’ve taken them over. It takes a shit ton of time, is unfun, and wont get you anything near instant results, but its the cards you’re dealt. You deal with them or don’t.
We’re all voting against Trump. America is pissed. Where is our outrage supposed to be aimed at and what can we do?
Discouraging people from doing anything is the opposite of helpful though, and encouraging people is something you can do. That along with participating in more than just federal politics.
I still can’t get used to being quote replied. It’s weird. Feels like being dissected.
Anyways. History doesn’t show substantial victory in voting. Voting keeps a citizen government moving policies around slowly. Unfortunately our current system is anything but by the people It’s chaos, uncertain, and most definitely untenable to people. This is a government of blue corporates who want a president with decorum to make deals with the world, and red oligarchs who thrive on the chaos, privatization, and a rauntier economy. Unfortunately the past 10 years the oligarchs have won. No 4 year Biden presidency is going to fix what the country has become. Not a 2 term social democratic administration can fix this without absolutely dismantling what the country has become. And unfortunately that is going to be violent.
Aristotle wrote when the oligarchal system is created with the inequities we see now, the only two choices are tyranny or revolution.
Even in your comment you point out it won’t be fixed in one term as if that’s the expectation, but that’s what I’m talking about here. It was never going to be 1, 2 or even 3 terms. Its a long, slow process.
When people don’t see immediate rapid change and give up, instead waiting for it to get so bad, it gets even worse (fictional revolution thinking), this just makes the system as it is more entrenched. They’ll happily keep you at bay.
I’m trying to tell you there’s no slow process change out of this administration. Neither party cares for the people at large and neither will give up power without revolutionary thinking. Even if a Biden like presidency and administration runs for the next 12 years the American people will not be better off. And unfortunately the alternative that is needed for the people isn’t one that has a foot in the door to even start the slow process rolling. Look at Mamdani. The backlash is heavy and he hasn’t even started.
I’m trying to tell you there’s no slow process change out of this administration.
You better hope there is, because you certainly aren’t going to be participating in any fast “you first” ones.
There is a slim chance that people who spend more time ensuring democrats don’t get votes, bitching about them while complaining there is a solution, stopped doing that and democrats won in 2026 with sufficient margins to withstand all the bullshit levied at it.
This would of course involve things like prop 50 being in place (which passed), and thats all increasingly looking like hail mary too, all because yall wont accept anything except a perfect hail mary, which will never come.
