Piss baby Musk should take his final breath under a bridge with nothing to his name. That would be fair.
And then the bridge should fall on him.
Tesla has sold 7 million and something cars in total according to google. If each of those was 100k, that would still be less than a trillion in total. How could one guy get paid more than the whole company ever made?
In the market these days, it’s not what you’re making now but the future potential of what you might make in the future. And Musk is an expert in dreaming big and make other people believe it.
And Musk is an expert in dreaming big and make other people believe it.
And has a near flawless record in achieving those dreams, making the people who believed in it filthy rich.
This pay packet is, like his last one, a “bet big on me and I’ll make you all insanely rich, or I get nothing” bet. It makes no sense why anyone would say no to it.
He hasn’t achieved those dreams at all with Tesla, or any other company that he actually runs. Over a million unsold cybertrucks. No actual autopilot that works. The cybertruck is 17 times more flammable than a Ford Pinto.
Elon Musk is an average intelligence fascist scam artist that happened to have a golden spoon in his mouth from day one.
Oh can we just lie about things to suit our argument now?
I don’t, but you do constantly.
How could one guy get paid more than the whole company ever made?
Because that $1trillion pay packet is contingent on the value of Tesla going to like $5tril, which would make it the biggest company in the history of the world. It would make every shareholder insanely rich.
But that’s all bubble. Tesla isn’t selling even enough cars to justify its current valuation, and sales are slowing down. The current valuation of Tesla is based entirely on hype, and has been for years. For ever, really, but in the early years it could be justified because it was the fastest growing car company ever, and EVs were new and hot. Now everybody is building EVs, and more than Tesla.
Is this your first time reading about the stock market? It’s all about “hype” and “bubbles”.
Teslas are still the gold standard of EVs. They’re not the cheapest, but they’re what everyone wants.
Why would this be my first time reading about the stock market? Do you think this is the first bubble?
Yes, hype and bubbles are common on the stock market, that’s not all it is, and that doesn’t make them okay. The dot-com bubble led to a crash. Other bubbles led to crashes. This one will too. How long that will take? That depends on the number of greater fools, or on how long they can keep inflating this with financial trickery.
Teslas are still the gold standard of EVs. They’re not the cheapest, but they’re what everyone wants.
That was years ago. Tesla sales are dropping in many places, while other the other EV sales are growing. Tesla has peaked, there’s no sign of anything that will reverse it. And their sales have never justified their stock value.
Growing sales of cheaper Chinese EVs don’t change what I said. Teslas are the gold standard that people want, but not everyone can afford or justify the purchase price. A corolla isn’t a better car than a Lamborghini just because it sells more.
There’s more to a car than speed, and Teslas aren’t Lamborghinis. They were exciting when they were new, but they’ve always had quality issues. Toyota produces more reliable cars. And more cars. There’s no perspective from which Tesla’s valuation makes sense.
Tesla have their valuation because that’s what the market decides they’re worth based on past performance, future predictions, leadership, etc. That’s all there is to it. You think they’re overvalued because you hate their CEO and “founder”. While I don’t agree with the stock market, they’re far more correct than you are. Things are worth what people will pay.
Teslas are still the flagship EV brand. Not being the highest selling doesn’t change that. Did you not understand the Corolla/Lamborghini example?
threats from Musk to step down if the deal is rejected
A threat is a good start, but is it a promise?
I thought these guys had already sold their Tesla stake
HOW IS HE WORTH A TRILLION DOLLARS
He’s not, he’s merely asking to be worth $1T.
From what I have read, he’s still likely to be able to line up enough votes to get his $1 trillion pay package (and the associated voting rights), despite a lot of major institutional investors being in opposition. But we’ll see when the vote goes though.
I think that Tesla can probably get a more-effective CEO for less money, personally. Even if he leaves as CEO, he still owns 15% of Tesla and is fabulously wealthy as a result. I don’t feel like he’s getting a bad deal.
I do think that there are some arguments that the SEC should pass some regulation to help ensure board-CEO independence; part of the issue is that the board, which is supposed to oversee Musk, has been considered to be acting on his behalf by quite a few people. I don’t think that it will happen under the present administration, though.
I think that Tesla can probably get a more-effective CEO for less money, personally.
Musk takes $0 pay as CEO other than these post-performance-goal-hit pay packets though. Good luck finding another CEO who will work for free for 5+ years.
I’ll happily do it for $1 million a year and do a hell of a lot better than musk. Considering the difference between $1 trillion and $1 million is pretty much $1 trillion I’m basically working for free.
He’s not getting paid a trillion a year - he’s getting paid $0. They pay you $1mil a year and go nowhere good. They pay him nothing and if they hit goals people say are impossible he gets a trillion.
