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Yeah I think you are right.
An electric car is not an emotional state.
You won’t get one. Where’s yours? You didnt bring one proving they dont. Since we both dont really know for sure, we should probably just assume they dont care about dieing, right?
Now you are being obtuse.
Because they do what they want. You can see it.
How so? Its the same thing I just said it two ways.
Not wanting to die/wanting to stay alive is proof animals understand mortality. Its the same impulses that keep humans alive as well.
I’m being more specific. I dont think it makes sense to look globally. The west can offset a lot of its bad practices if you include the rest of the world that doesnt.
I understand if you dont care much about this point though.
Elephants mourn their dead family members. Is that a bad example?
Thats closer to the global number, but local numbers can be far worse. If you look at just the US its under 20% of crop calories went to people. The rest went to livestock and machines.
They understand it the same way we do. Just because we created stories and religion around it doesnt mean we experience it any different. They understand, just like we do, pain is bad and food and water are good. Just because we can write papers about the subject doesnt make the feeling different.
Well you should probably stop eating fish then, because trawling absolutely does kill dolphins. Its called by-catch.
Is hay the only thing that can grow on that land? Could we grow food humans like instead?
You do need to think things through a bit more than that.
Is greenwashing a new term where you dont have to engage with vegans in conversation?
What’s the real number?
Not true at all, many animals share the same emotions as humans, who are animals themselves.
Doing what’s best for an animal doesnt always mean keep it alive at all costs, you realize this right?
Do some research about their programs before you spout some nonsense.
How does it seem like multiple sounds come through at the same time though? Say drums and vocals and a guitar, all at once. How does one groove equate to all of that?




Which country would you expect to solve wealth inequality first?