I don’t care if they exist or not. The complaints that XYZ doesn’t have them is what makes me dislike them. Like who cares if Switch doesn’t have achievements? Go play the game and have fun

I’m glad you deleted your comment because it had nothing to do with my point

As good as they are, the Deck, Machine, and Frame are more niche gamer products that your typical console gamer engages with. This will be a great product and side hustle for Valve and its consumers but they aren’t beating out Switch/2 lol.

I say this as someone looking forward to buying a Steam Machine if the price is in the $500/$600 ish range

I didn’t say Valve did. I said why I don’t like achievement systems or, I guess more accurately, why I don’t think everything needs them

For me, it’s when people complain that a game/system/platform doesn’t have them. Some games and systems don’t need or want to gamify playing games and that’s okay

If one bad apple truly should the bunch, yes. Yes you have to eat him too

If it’s priced at or around $500/$600, I’m getting one. Price will be very important to the success of these products.