• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Yeah no shit - for half of our voters, those things are all selling points. If we run a man who’s an absolute piece of shit against a woman who’s less so, but still very much a piece of shit, the man will win every time. As I said, sexism is definitely a factor.

    If we run a man who’s an absolute piece of shit against a woman who isn’t a piece of shit… who fuckin knows: we haven’t tried that. But Harris’s odds seemed pretty solid until she started publicly supporting Israel’s genocide on Gaza: so she lost a hefty chunk of support from the half of voters who are turned off by evil behavior; meanwhile the bigot’s popularity with bigoted voters remained unsurprisingly steady.

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      My point is that the people who try to justify not voting for Harris due to her support of genocide achieved nothing.

      Do you seriously think Trump gave less weapons to Israel? Do you think he did a better job of keeping a muzzle on Bibi?

      They might think they didn’t sully their soul, but they did. Refusing to choose the lesser of two evils isn’t a moral win. It’s just allowing the worse evil to win.

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        That’s not the point I’m making - the people who chose not to vote over Harris’s comments are fucking morons. They share responsibility for Trump’s victory and everything he’s done since.

        But the time to look past Harris’s comments, shut our mouths, and vote strategically for her was during the general. The election is over, and there is no longer reason to defend her, or contrast her against Trump. She isn’t a lesser evil anymore.

        And there’s the core of my point: looking at her objectively, she is evil. She stands right alongside the voters who opted out in culpability for Trump’s victory and enabling the current dismal state of our country.

        That’s why I think the whole “America isn’t ready for a women” spiel is BS. Both of the women we’ve run recently were fucking horrible candidates: but even so they lost by a narrow enough margin that blaming the outcome on the contents of their pants is a failure to consider the other variables at play.

        If we ran a woman who was actually likeable, doesn’t have a history full of scandals, and doesn’t come out in the 11th hour of the general to say something detrimental like support for genocide… then that woman will win.

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        2 days ago

        My point is that the people who try to justify not voting for Harris due to her support of genocide achieved nothing.

        Well… K? You can keep getting mad about an overwhelming and likely irrelevant minority, but can you keep it for when it’s actually relevant?