We have lost around half of the voters who supported us last July. Voters are leaving us because life is unaffordable and they want transformational…

Not sure I agree with this entirely, but it’s at least an actually data-driven argument about winning over voters, rather than whatever the hell the Cabinet’s reading.

  • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
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    3 days ago

    I’m having a hard time figuring out whom their erstwhile coalition is with. I’d love to see them side with, say, the greens and build an actual coalition that can stand up in an election but I doubt that’s on their mind.

    • Apepollo11@lemmy.world
      5·
      3 days ago

      I think by coalition they mean the “broad church” within Labour - the left-wingers and right-wingers.

      An actual coalition with another party is impossible under Labour’s own rules - party members are not allowed to endorse another party under any circumstances.

      I honestly think that instead of trying to hold it all together the only thing that can save Labour is a schism. Remove the New Labour bods like you’d extract an aggressive tumour, and let them fend for themselves as a separate party. Labour gets back to its roots as a championing the working man, without all the Machiavellian nonsense from the New Labour side.

      • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        I didn’t know that about their rules. Unsurprising though.

        About the idea of fixing Labour though. Do you think there’s a chance of that? Is there a baby to avoid throwing out with the bathwater, or do we just flush that toilet?

        • Apepollo11@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 days ago

          I like to think there are still some good Labour MPs. They just need to be liberated from the New Labour guys who have been parasitically sustaining themselves on the goodwill people still had towards the old party.

          Labour can then go back to protecting people’s rights instead of arguing that they have too many, and New Labour can do whatever it is a spineless morally-amorphous knee-jerk-policy-making vote-chasing group of self-important posh-boys want to do, now unshackled from such legacy burdens as principles and ethics.

          But, realistically, they won’t split. New Labour can only exist because of the masses of people who vote Labour because they’ve always voted Labour. Lose the name, they lose the votes.