It sounds like a bunch of Democrats want to cave in exchange for no concessions whatsoever. Edit: Bloomberg has more details
Current likely Democratic votes for this:
- Shaheen - NH
- Hassan - NH
- King - ME
- Fetterman - PA
- Peters - MI
- Durbin - IL
- Warner - VA
- Kaine - VA
- Ossoff- GA
- Warnock - GA
If you want to change things, you need to call their DC office NOW, and leave an email if you can’t.
Edit 2: enough Democrats joined the Republicans to reopen the government with no real concessions.
The list:
- Durbin
- Hassan
- King
- Cortez Masto
- Kaine
- Shaheen
- Rosen
- Fetterman
- Schumer
- Gillibrand
There was a caucus meeting right before this, so the bulk of the Senate Democrats were likely OK with giving in, even if not willing to vote for it in public
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Absolutely fucking pathetic
Every time I said they would buckle, I was downvoted. The Democratic party as an institute is not on our side, they use rhetoric to pacify us and prevent a full on revolution that’s well overdue.
Wow it’s almost like we know how they work and their brainwashed sycophants were conditioned to disagree with any criticism of their party.
The ratchet effect with a massively shifted Overton window as made telling the truth become violence to the state.
I hate the Democrats so so much. They never fight. Every time it looks like they might fight, it turns out that they’re not fighting. Their relentless cowardice is why we have trump and the fascists dismantling everything and hurting people.
“Vote for the lesser evil”
But why vote for the lesser evil if the lesser evil will vote with the greater evil anyway?
Slightly better PR and the color blue.
I don’t know about “better PR” these days, this is pathetic.
Well you get a different army of brainwashed masses defending them, using more complex words a Republican would never use because it’s above the 6th grade reading level.
Vote in the primaries. Get involved in local politics and find out who actually wants to help people, has good ideas, and has a proven track record in their community.
Elect the good leaders in your kid’s PTO to the school board. Get to know your local scout council (both boy scouts and girl scouts), elect them to your city council. Follow your school board, city and county council, see what they are doing, who is actually helping the community with good ideas, and then send them to the state house, demand they continue to fight for the people. The good ones in your state house should go to the Capitol for no more than 3 terms, then they can come back to the state house to be the local senior leaders.
The problem is, no one does that first part where they pay attention to the local stuff, demanding local change and building local leaders and helping to ensure our candidates aren’t evil.
As sad as it sounds, the race for President doesn’t seem to have the greatest impact on American lives.
The Democratic Primaries are where people should be focusing their efforts.
democrats will just move the goal posts in the primaries or run an additional 15 establishment candidates to split the vote and ensure nobody but the establishment ever wins. It’s what they did to bernie.
they say not to vote 3rd party because it will “split the vote” but it’s just projection. It’s what they would do.
It’s why Cuomo ran as an independent when he didn’t win the nomination, and most were unwilling to back the actual nominee until the day of the election.
They will ratfuck you then wonder why no one likes them.
[Trump destroys America]
This was all the democrats fault!!!
Man. Every day, I see less and less difference between the far left and MAGA.
Are “The Far Left” in the room with us now?
Read the room, mate.
I read the room, mate.
Man. Every day, I see less and less difference between the fat left and MAGA.
Probably need to get your lenses checked, because how you took that comment speaks a lot to how you see things and it sounds like you need a new prescription. This is a post about Democrats caving to the GOP once again, so the comment fits the context.
Are they wrong in stating that the cowardice and unwillingness of Democrats to put up a real fight for the average person paved the way for not one but two Trump presidencies? Trump is a symptom.
I took that comment exactly as it was stated:
Trump fucked America, and apparently… lol- it’s somehow the democrats fault. It’s laughable logic at best and definitely shouldn’t be taken seriously.
Alright, enjoy demonizing your allies because your views are so binary. You’re just as much of a hindrance to the leftist movement as the people you complain about.
I’m not sure how to simplify it further for you. It’s not the fault of the Democrats, but they’re partially responsible. It’s entirely fair to call them out for doing it again.
If someone comes to your door and says “let me in I’m going to rob you”, and you say “no” but don’t close the door, lock the door, or do anything to stop them (similar to the performative opposition we see from the Democrats) do you bare no responsibility for the outcome? Sure, you’re not the robber, but you were warned and didn’t do anything.
You seem to think criticism of the Democrats = someone saying they’re Fascists just like the Republicans. Sure, that idea is out there, but now you’re just painting everybody with that brush. You and MAGA seem to share more similarities than you think.
ROFL…
Ya gotta love the polarized ideology of the typical lemmy denizen. I’ll eat my shoes the day one of you show even a rudimentary understanding of the concept of nuance.
And if you aren’t rewriting the points of others to argue against- you’re not saying anything at all.
Narrator: Not literally, but expected to be taken as such.
So do you think the Democrats giving the GOP what they wanted was a good thing here?
They are just rooting for their “team” like a good two party system enjoyer.
If you don’t see the difference then you’re operating on vibes rather than substance.
They’re to the right of Biden, so anyone who wants the Democrats to fight the GOP it’s actually a secret double agent for the GOP.
Where’s the dissenters in this thread?
Dissenters against what?
The dems caved and made all this shutdown for nothing. Who’s side should we take? Healthcare premiums are going up into the stratosphere, I am already being told they will go up an additional $1000 a month for me and those I cover. I COUNTED on Dem leadership to hold the line and force Republicans to allow ACA to remain untouched, now dems own the shuttdown and republicans are laughing all the way to the bank as they get to now spend those tax credits on… whatever the FUCK they are doing with all this money they’re taking from us.
This isn’t about sides anymore, people are going to die. They are throwing people to their death.
edit: I sometimes think there are just bots here who say things to learn how humans reply.
Premiums affected refers to those using the public market state options via Obama care. Aka direct purchase plans, which is 10.2% of Americans w/health insurance.
Yes, that’s over 34 million Americans.
Not quite. Only about 307million Americans have health care, so its 10.2% of the 91% who have Healthcare. So 3 mill less than your number.
Oh that makes it okay then!
