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This. And I use more soap on my ass and balls than about anywhere else on my body JUST TO BE EXTRA CLEAN.

Americans need to suffer more. Especially the working class. They can only blame immigrants for so long.

I don’t think it’s the singular issue but there are many, many people, male and female, that will not even consider a female candidate for president. With the social regression of MAGA, my concern is that the Overton window is moving too far to the right. I will happily vote for a female. I worry the populace won’t. Hillary won the popular vote and lost in the electoral college thanks to swing districts going to Trump.

No matter what she said about Gaza, it was going to be divisive for the Dems. The only part of American politics that view Gaza as a genocide are leftists. And leftists alone can’t win a national election. We aren’t there yet. What was she supposed to say? And on the economy, yes, she should have talked more about how the economy was good. How they had solved Trump’s inflation. How their plans were bringing stability and growth to America. Because Trump had no plan. He had gibberish answers. Attack soundbites. Trump relied on his surrogates making his points for him. Still does.

I don’t like it that she brought Cheney in. But anyone that saw that and decided not to vote for her has ensured whatever comes to pass. Up to and including absolute fascism and federal control of daily life.

If the left really wants a shot at changing things, the presidential election isn’t where to do it. That would be the absolute last place for change. We need system reform to allow viable third party candidates. The two party system is the flaw. It is eroding our ability to vote for real candidates.

If you think that any kind of intellectual examination was part of people’s decision making process last election, you are sorely mistaken. It really surprises me that on Lemmy, people think that 90% of voters even think about these things. They don’t. And they won’t. Look at the polling leading up to 2024. Harris was ahead for quite a bit. As the day got closer and Trump started running tabloid ads about trans and immigrants, the polls shifted.

The shift in polling had nothing to do with these nuanced takes about centrists and war hawks and corporate Democrats. Nothing. The masses voted based on last minute bigoted propaganda and claimed it was about the economy.

Your reasoning may apply in small, isolated circles. We are talking about the masses and no, I don’t buy it. I’ve talked to too many people.

You’re making my point for me while trying to be contrarian.

Same. And I’ve said the same several times. I’ll vote leftist as far as I can. But in the end, we need a leftist coalition around whoever the candidate is. We have to stop the GOP. People that think this will be some chance to make a wild swing to the left really need to curb their expectations.

There’s so many of them on Lemmy it’s wild. These little fucks better get out and vote for the Democrat whether it’s a centrist or not. The alternative is GOP. I seriously don’t get what they don’t get.

That’s what leftists want. There is zero unity on the left. I get mobbed on here for saying I’ll vote as far left as I can before I’m forced to vote centrist. It’s a reality. We’ve faced that reality three cycles in a row now. The right has nothing but unity. I’ll vote for a leftist female as far as I can. Will the rest of the left?

It literally was easier to sell. I dunno how much evidence Americans need to see before they understand that there is a strong bias against female leaders. Especially for president… wild that so many on here think these are principled decisions people are making rofl.

Acting like the average American even knows what a neoliberal is. Lol!

So when the primary is done and the candidates are a centrist vs fascist, you’re going to sit out?

Trump was the alternative. Be serious.

I agree but the issue isn’t what is right. It’s about getting the candidate over the finish line.

Hillary won the popular vote and still lost in a system where the popular vote doesn’t matter. We have a rigged system. I voted for Hillary. It’s not that I don’t have faith in our candidates. I don’t have faith in the system and my fellow Americans.

Third female candidate in four election cycles. I dunno, feels like we are asking to lose. And again, I would love to vote for her. Just don’t think the populace can muster it. I have lost all faith in Americans. The hope from Obama’s terms is completely gone.

We tried Clinton. We tried Harris. I know the conditions are different, but do we really want to risk it when abject fascism is the consequence?

Yep. I would love AOC to win but there’s no chance in America for that to happen. Our populace is deranged.