Independent Senator Bernie Sanders floated Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a potential presidential candidate in the 2028 elections, saying that even though it’s “her decision to make,” she is a “very, very good politician.”

Speaking to Axios, Sanders said that he has been “out on the streets with her” and noticed how she responds when people come up to her. “It’s so incredibly genuine and open.”

Ocasio-Cortez is seemingly positioning herself to run for higher office, whether it is challenging Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for his seat or to make a run for president.

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    I would like to say: clinton didn’t lose because she’s a woman, she lost because she’s a sleazeball. harris didn’t lose because she’s a woman, she lost because she was courting the right wing for some reason. AOC can win because she’s not a sleazy right winging neolib. I’d vote for her for president.

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      Both Harris and Clinton position themselves as more of the status quo. Trump both time always positions himself as an outsider who taps into to racism and white rage. The only time you can win off a status quo type deal if the Dem admin was doing amazing during when they had power.

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      What you said is true. But any woman, even a great one, is going to have a tougher time than a man would. Sexism is still a problem in this country.

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        Sexism and racism. It’s absolutely foolish for anyone to think that Americans won’t abstain from voting, or worse vote against a woman or a non-white person. It’s abysmal to think about, but it’s true.

        If a woman or a non-white person runs, there will be a subset of the population who refuse to vote for them specifically because of their race or gender.

        It’s why the republicans always run an old white male asshole, because no one refuses to vote for old white male assholes specifically out of principle, but a large amount of people (larger than you or I would likely think) will absolutely vote against a woman or a non-white person specifically due to their race or gender.

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          It’s like you guys forget that Barrack Hussein Obama lead us to the largest victory in recent memory. The black guy with the Muslim name less than a decade from 9/11. He just never happened because if you tried to account for him, your whole theory would look like a steaming load.

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            I didn’t say that they couldn’t win, just that it was an additional hurdle a white man wouldn’t have. But I appreciate your strawman all the same, it is almost halloween.

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      I’m not saying you’re wrong, but don’t underestimate the role of misogyny. A commentator on a podcast i listen to was in the US in the run-up to the last election and they said that something they heard over and over again in the people they talked to was variations on “i hate Trump and everything he stands for, but i couldn’t trust the country to a woman”

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      Oh shit the ML are back to destroy the left because they love MAGA. It’s been a while since I saw an ML account. Yall ramping back up for the midterm manipulation?

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    Lol the DNC has chosen Newsom as the new golden boy.

    The DNC would run the corpse of Hillary Clinton again before letting a progressive have power.

    I would love for AOC to actually be allowed to be voted on, because she would probably win the popular vote like progressives almost always do.

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    Support for what ever she decides is next, although I feel like the senate would be a better step. However the democrats dont really have a face to back that isnt some centerist that thinks its ok to play with the bully after they have taken your lunch money or someone that is older than Wonder Bread ™.

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      They are going to basically offer her Chuck’s Senate seat, unopposed, as long as she doesn’t go after the nomination that they have already awarded to Newsom. He’s the Next One Up!

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      Oh, are we gearing up for another round of “Let’s smear one party over an issue that neiher cares about”? I love that! Worked so well last time. Sabotaging the dems in the name of progress and human rights in order to get Trump to tear down both of them.

      The things that matter for an election are the things that the election can change. Support for Zionist atrocities is not one of those things. Focus on the things where they actually are different, because there are a lot of other important problems at stake.

      You won’t help Palestine by propping up Republicans.

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        I know my audience don’t worry. Many people don’t want anything to do with zionism and they deserve to know these basic information. You don’t like the truth? talk to AOC and his zio friends Bernie.

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          Do you mind giving an alternative for the record?

          Afaik Bernie has been the most outspoken advocate for Palestine in US Congress.

          Im asking you seriously because otherwise you are just noise. The domestic issues are far more important to the average US voter than the atrocities being committed in Gaza by Israel.

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    AOC supports Israel. We cannot have pro-Israel candidates. If AOC is the candidate, I’m not voting for her.

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        That’s what leftists want. There is zero unity on the left. I get mobbed on here for saying I’ll vote as far left as I can before I’m forced to vote centrist. It’s a reality. We’ve faced that reality three cycles in a row now. The right has nothing but unity. I’ll vote for a leftist female as far as I can. Will the rest of the left?

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      Artificial dichotomies are unfortunately a consequence of the voting system. Would you consider voting for her if the Republican rival was just as pro-Israel or more? Or slightly more pro-Palestine but very much against you in many other issues?

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        I have had this discussion many times. They do not seem to understand that not voting for Dems because of Israel just enables Bibi’s buddy who is currently tearing down the White House.

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      There’s exactly 0 politicians opposing Israel in all of USA. Which one do you think should run for president?

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      Look what not voting has done you stupid fucking ingrain.

      Go throw yourself in the line of fire, it will literally do less damage to all the people that the Nazi pigstate is doing to America right now.

      Holy fucking shit you people are so pathetically useless.

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        There’s so many of them on Lemmy it’s wild. These little fucks better get out and vote for the Democrat whether it’s a centrist or not. The alternative is GOP. I seriously don’t get what they don’t get.

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    Non an american but I feel like US needs a revolutionary candidate to come back from Trump. It has to be someone strong enough to put nazis back into their place.

    It’s still early to talk about this though right? From what I understand the upcoming midterms will shape everything else.

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    I’m going to lose all my karma. But the democrats don’t need a pretty face.They need a freaking platform.

    she really doesn’t have a chance anyway.She’s too polarizing. Clinton was same the same way.

    We need to beat the republicans, not keep throwing them.Elections. also our identity politics are cringeworthy

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      Let me join you in the karma loss:

      Hillary Clinton: Lost to Donald Trump

      Joe Biden: Beat Donald Trump

      Kamala Harris: Lost to Donald Trump

      There are too many Christian swing voters that will NOT vote for a female President, full stop, and that is baked into the Christian psyche. Christians are taught that Woman was first deceived by the serpent and disobeyed God first, and afterwards she took on the role of the serpent and directly tempted Man. It’s why they do not elect a woman into ANY leadership roles within the church.

      I don’t know how many times the Democrats need to lose to learn this lesson, but the fact that nobody recognizes any of this doesn’t bode well.

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    I think that plenty of people who voted for Trump would be fine voting for a woman president as long as she’s strongly advocating change

    These people just know that things aren’t great, they don’t know whose fault it was or what policies caused it. So they vote for the person who says they’ll change the most.

    The largest deciding factor stated by people after voting was the economy. People remembered that there was a lot of inflation under Biden, and didn’t want to keep similar policies. Of course, we know that Trump’s first term had a pretty large influence on the state of the economy under Biden, and Biden’s policies probably didn’t hurt the economy. But the average voter is not that informed.

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      I think that plenty of people who voted for Trump would be fine voting for a woman president

      I’m sorry, but this is based on what, exactly? I know you didn’t base it on historical data. Trump won against Hillary Clinton, a woman, lost against Joe Biden, a man, then won against Kamala Harris, a woman.

      2016 turnout for Clinton/Trump: 128,837,949

      2020 turnout for Biden/Trump: 155,507,476

      2024 turnout for Harris/Trump: 152,319,643

      3,187,833 fewer people turned out for the Harris/Trump election.

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        That’s two data points influenced by countless other factors. Like the economy, which I mentioned.

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    I’d love it, but we need a sure win this time. Not getting a 50 year old white dude will make it harder. We’ve tried a shitty blonde, an old guy, and a black woman. We need someone who will take votes from the red.

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      I think running a candidate who actually offers real solutions to the problems people are facing is more important than fitting a particular demographic.

      Each of the last three Dem noms were also centrist neolibs.

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        Yes but centrist neolib would be a massive improvement right now. You have idiotic fascist, the few smart ones sleep with Julius evola under their pillow. Somehow they also have “christians”.

        They can unite all kinds of weirdos and the left is divided over too many things.

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          The point is that they’ll keep losing because you don’t excite people by saying “we’ll make sure things don’t get much worse.”

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      We tried a corrupt neoliberal, a feeble neoliberal, and a sleazy neoliberal. I suspect they all had something in common that was very offputting to the entire populace. If only we could figure out what that was and not repeat it.

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    I hate that my thoughts on this need to waffle between:

    (A) who do I think would be the best president, and

    (B) who do I think has the most strategic chance of beating the GOP puppet candidate.

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      The question itself is BS.

      And only liberals ask that.

      We need candidates with bold ideas, who aren’t trying to compromise with corporations and bigots.

      And just like we have seen with Hillary and Kamala, no one wants to vote for career politicians in corporate pockets.

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    A female president of a normal age would be an amazing change for the US. Why does it always have to be geriatric males?

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      America is incredibly sexist. And racist.

      As much as I would love for her to change things up, the reality is America isn’t ready to elect a woman. She simply won’t win. We need a male candidate, especially against the current testosterone driven gop. A woman simply won’t convert vites from gop to democratic, it just won’t happen.

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    I think AOC is perceived as a brat by most of the right and it is thus unlikely she could win. I’d love for her to win, but it won’t be her.

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      We tried catering to them the last two elections. The only way we win is by getting the left to vote. The “centrists” who told you to nominate a moderate were lying.