• Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Based on them JUST RECENTLY fixing the “update and shut down” ‘bug’ not ACTUALLY shutting down your computer after updating after 10 years maybe they are fixing it! It’ll just take 10 years for these fixes to happen!

    🫩

  • ImpulseDrive42@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    If someone gets pissed off enough at windows… They’re going to find alternatives. And once they’re locked into those alternatives, they’re likely not going to switch back. Until something with their current setup catastrophically breaks. As a result, its kind of too late for Windows to save itself. At least in my opinion.

  • Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip
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    5 hours ago

    Oh good, they know they have a lot to fix. If only someone on the Windows team knew a trillion dollar company that could foot the bill for getting those fixes done ASAP. That kinda cash and you could build a whole OS from scratch if you really wanted to.

  • audaxdreik@pawb.social
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    7 hours ago

    I’m always thinking about this article, Breaching the Trust Thermocline Is the Biggest Hidden Risk in Business

    The biggest takeaways from the article are that trust is not a linear system. Businesses think that bad decisions erode trust but can be compensated for through perfectly calculated corrective actions once they begin to see that decline in trust. It should be most telling that they tried this shit at all. They only tried it because they thought you were too stupid to notice and would be meek enough to accept it and when you weren’t, they simply looked for another angle.

    Second, it assumes that trust can ever be won back. And for the most part it can’t. I understand there are a myriad of issues that keep people tied to Windows, but I migrated to Linux. I learned the system and I made sacrifices with pieces of software I wasn’t able to completely replace, but I’ve made peace with that. I am comfortable where I’m at now and there is nothing, literally nothing that would ever see me return to Windows at this point.

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      3 hours ago

      Too stupid to notice? No. Too meek to do anything about it? Yes! That sums up Windows users in a nutshell.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    Before reading the link, lemme guess: “we’ll dress it in a different way, and still ship it. Regards, Microsoft.”

    After reading the link: wow! I managed to overestimate Microsoft!

    [Davaluri] Hey Gergely, I am responding here, and I think this applies to a bunch of the comments that people have made. I mean, a lot of comments . The team (and I) take in a ton of feedback

    “Feedback”: mincing words for “backslash”.

    We balance what we see in our product feedback systems with what we hear directly. They don’t always match, but both are important.

    Emphasis mine. So, the data of those “feedback systems” clash with user complains. Are the systems broken? Naaah, it must be the users /s

    I’ve read through the comments and see focus on things like reliability, performance, ease of use and more. But I want to spend a moment just on the point you are making, and I’ll boil it down, we care deeply about developers.

    He’s babbling “we care about you” to distract the reader. Diversion tactic.

    We know we have work to do on the experience, both on the everyday usability, from inconsistent dialogs to power user experiences. When we meet as a team, we discuss these paint points and others in detail, because we want developers to choose Windows.

    Blah blah blah. Diversion tactic still going…

    We know words aren’t enough

    Implicit: “trust us (be gullible trash), this will be more than just words”.

    Specially hilarious because he’s babbling a lot, but in no moment he says anything MS will do to address the complains.

    it’s on us to continue improving and shipping. Would love to connect with you about what the team is doing to address these areas if you are open to it.

    “Let me pretend this is a problem with you, as if you were the only one complaining about this. And let’s make it personal.”

    [Jawad] It’s good to see Microsoft’s Windows chief at least acknowledging feedback

    He isn’t.

    while Davaluri’s comments on the direction of Windows are slightly encouraging

    If you think corporate babble is “slightly encouraging”, I have bad news for you.


    AI could have written both Davaluri’s quote and the article as a whole.

    • Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      [Davaluri] Hey Gergely, I am responding here, and I think this applies to a bunch of the comments that people have made. I mean, a lot of comments . The team (and I) take in a ton of feedback

      This reads like a Trump quote

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    14 hours ago

    They could resolve most criticisms by just continuing security updates for W10 and otherwise never touching it again. But then what of their surveillance-based revenue?

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    14 hours ago

    “When we meet as a team, we discuss these paint points and others in detail, because we want developers to choose Windows.”

    Putting aside the “paint points” vs pain points, unless there is some MS Paint aspect I have missed, what about the broader user base who are not developers and simply want a robust OS to run their games and applications without all the AI and telemetry “features”?

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      12 hours ago

      They want devs to choose Windows so they develop the next big AI app on Windows to draw the gullible users to Windows. Would be a shame if they choose macOS or even Linux instead.

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    12 hours ago

    The fact that they think they can fix windows is the problem. They should shut that shit down and contribute a compatibility layer to Linux and macOS. Then, focus their efforts on cloud and web based office apps.

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    14 hours ago

    You know shits bad when even I’M advocating to switch to linux. I don’t even understand linux!

    I would happily switch to an OS that is linux under the hood, but visually can operate like Windows XP.

    WHERE TERMINAL ISN’T EVEN INSTALLED BY DEFAULT!