How did an allegedly civilized country allow one of the worst people imaginable to become their leader?
The Republicans have been waging war against our education system for 50+ years, and brainwashing their constituents. It’s a literal cult.
Because he embodies American values. Greed, ignorance, show-boating and self importance.
Are they Democrat cities by any chance? I assume he won’t also deploy them to Republican cities?
One thing that the mayors of all of those cities have in common is that they are Democrats. One thing. There is another.
Helicopters have been flying low over Houston every couple hours all through the day for the last week.
I hope y’all liked our hard work in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen, cause it’s coming home
You mean like when he wasted shit tons of money deploying the national guard to those places so they could sit on their ass, sleep in hallways, and then eventually leave because they weren’t needed and no one asked for them in the first place?
Fascists traditionally leave office in body bags
How will this shit end?
best case, bloody
worst case, bloody but under authoritarian rule
Suspension of the constitution and President Trump for life.
The most free country on the planet is now the most fascist.
Way to go America, yer fuckin’ winning.
The most free country on the planet…
Well you see that is the neat part, the us was never that. They like to say that they are, but no.
Now its just so blatantly wrong that no amount of rah rah usa will work.
FYI - He tried this in Portland last time:
Bonus: The guy in charge of it, Chad Wolf (not making that up) had been illegally appointed and had no authority:
https://www.theusconstitution.org/litigation/dont-shoot-portland-v-wolf/
How quickly people forgot that unmarked vans with unmarked personnel were kidnapping people off the streets of Portland during BLM
Did we forget? I kinda feel like this is an extension of the BLM persecution. It worked so well they decided to keep using the same techniques.
“No the billionaire owned news told us they were l00ters!”
Nevermind the exact same rhetoric being used to suppress civil rights 40 years ago
Martial law is next! I tell ya.
This is damn near the same thing, without all the fancy steps.
Those “fancy steps” are the only things that would make this legal. Without them, all he’s doing is violating the Constitution. DC presents a unique loophole for this. Anywhere else, and he’s breaking the law.
He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.
No one is “letting him”. There are dozens of active cases against him and his administration, right now. The process takes time, and the media never covers it adequately…but the system is still working.
you’re right that the system is working. it is giving us its ultimate: fascism. this is the intended outcome for profit seeking capitalists. if you mean to say our system of American justice is working… surely you jest.
This is why we’re doomed. I cannot believe there are people who still think like this
isn’t it disgusting? depressing as hell how these people still feel so confident in “the system.”
So…do you agree with Trump when he tries to suspend or ignore the legal process? Is that your solution? Just, “as long as it’s us doing it, it’s fine”?
It’s kind of bizarre to advocate for the very same shit he’s pulling, as a defense against the kind of shit he keeps trying to pull.
If the system were working Cannon could not have effectively blocked Trump’s prosecution. If the system were working the leader of an insurrection against the government of the United States could not have even RUN for President, much less BEEN SWORN IN. If the system were working the personal attorney for the most vile and morally corrupt President in our nation’s history would not have been NONINATED, much less CONFIRMED to a federal appellate court.
THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING. Any conclusions predicated on another other assumption are simply wrong.
That’s entirely the point. Legal channels are too show to counteract everything at once. See Bannon’s “stress test”.
Dude. That’s literally the same argument Trump was using for why he should be allowed to just deport people without due process. This is not the “solution” you think it is.
So you’re saying we should “go high”… How has that been working out thus far?
Surely this time he’s done for.
Hate to break it to you man but the law does not matter. It really never has for the rich and powerful but he has laid it all bare
I’ve said time and time again we let the entire Bush admin off the hook for war crimes… Trump hasn’t even hit war crimes levels yet. Did anyone think we were ever going to hold him to account when we wouldn’t even do anything about that?
I think it started sooner, with Nixon being pardoned and all the senior Reagan White House officials getting away with Iran-Contra
I don’t disagree, I guess I just felt like Bush’s war crimes of torture within our own military was pretty directly egregious whereas the whole point of Iran-Contra was that the Contras were the ones committing the violence, not US soldiers at the command of their leadership. Plausible deniability and all that. Like, if our society was ever going to give a shit, that should be have been the straw that broke the camels back since there was nothing plausibly deniable about “enhanced interrogation.”
There are so many people who were radicalized by 9/11, that then went on to give Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. carte blanche to do horrific things to people.
The law does matter. People don’t seem to realize just how much of Trump’s bullshit has already been stopped by the courts.
The majority of his executive orders have all been blocked or straight-up nullified, so far…but thanks to the overwhelming volume of court cases and the long delays in reaching some decisions…the media never covers the outcomes to the same extent.
Buddy if the law mattered even one fucking iota trump himself would be buried under the prison.
That’s not how the law works.
Oh okay please explain how the law works I’m sure youre a lawyer or a judge or some other type of legal expert. We’re all dying to hear how our president isn’t guilty of literally dozens and possibly hundreds of serious financial and sexual crimes dating back to the 1980s, or how he is guilty and the fact that he hasn’t been punished is just “how the law works”
Man I hate lemmoids
If the law was perfect or if the law even worked as intended, he would have been in prison a long time ago.
If the law didn’t matter at all, he wouldn’t bother making threats and testing the waters. The military never would have been recalled from LA the first time around. The FBI would have already arrested the TX Democrats in Chicago, and TX Republicans would have just gone ahead with the redistricting without a second thought (which even I’m pretty surprised that they didn’t).
Will the law alone prevail and save us in the end? Not likely, but there is a difference between being naive and not allowing yourself to panic and be backed into a corner of black and white thinking. In many ways, doing so is accepting defeat.
Being smart and strategizing means using the law and along with everything else to your advantage while you still can. Trump has been bulldozing through law bc his goal is to betray his own country. Democrats in TX are breaking the law, but they’re doing it strategically to save their country. They’re aligning themselves with Democrats in other states, and uniting as Americans. That’s what we all should be doing.
You are a useful idiot for this admin.
whenever an EO gets challenged or struck down, Trump figures out a way to get rid of the problem or go around it. the only thing the law is doing is showing him vulnerabilities to exploit. state injunctions are legally being ignored thanks to SCOTUS, so… Trump does not have to listen to judges.
It doesn’t fucking matter. He’ll do it all anyway, without ever declaring martial law. And what the fuck is anyone going to do about it?
Law means nothing unless there’s some means to enforce it
It means even less, if your first impulse is to toss it all out the window as soon as it’s no longer convenient for you to follow it.
“Yes, the current system is slow and ineffective, and has done nothing to prevent the incarceration and deportation of innocent people, misappropriation of funds, and misuse of the military, but to demand anything else would be going against the ineffective system!”
So, because people are currently being denied the right to due process…due process itself, doesn’t work?
I hope they don’t use the military on the homeless
… that’s literally what he said he was going to do
Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it’s important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn’t a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn’t a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.
I work at Microsoft and they just did massive layoffs all of this year. Last round I was layed off. 9000 of us in the last round.
I say this, because, I think people might associate tech jobs and education with being more liberal and pro immigrantion. This is not the case at all. The liberals are being offered fascism as a means to deal with their unemployment and will accept it with open arms as their material conditions decline. Most people I know from my job would absolutely join ICE for the paycheck as the tech sector lays off more and more people.
I’m sure we are seeing this in other industries as well. But just sharing for mine. ICE is going to look like an attractive job for a lot “middle class” Americans to be able to make rent. None of them are having class conflict conversations either. These people have next to no idea of what is going on.
We will not just get the hogs joining ICE. You’re gonna see a lot of liberals start to justify it as their livelihood starts to get connected to it too. This is how fascism works.
I watched a documentary a couple days ago about a school counselor who got laid off and needed to join ICE to make his monthly nut.
needed to join ICE
Yeah, no. Fuck that.
A nut’s a nut and they’re hiring.
I was just doing my job
Is not a valid excuse for collaborating with fascists. It wasn’t for the Nazis, it’s not for the IDF, and it isn’t for ICE/Trump regime.
Fuck anyone who normalizes this.
Must be nice to be rich or out of touch enough to be idealistic.
you haven’t got a clue how many poor people have stood up against fascism throughout the last century. Fuck these excuses.
Yeah nah fuck that and fuck you
thanks man, finally someone else saying it!
We’ve been chasing the dragon since 2016: This is gonna bring him down, that is gonna bring him down, oh no but wait, this is definitely going to finish him off. How is the Epstein story ever going to harm him in any way?
In reality those things are the distractions from the real shit that’s been happening. Now that he’s accelerating his fascist actions in plain sight, how dare anyone say it’s just a distraction? This narrative only works in his favour, jfc.
but but but guys, Kamala Harris had a weird laugh….
/s
We had a bad choice and a worse choice. So i said let it all fall.
So i said let it all fall.
At lest vote 3rf party.
Otherwise the material reality is that you got out the way for the worse choice. Obstruction isn’t ideal, but its helpful none the less
At least with the bad choice more people would have energy and resources to fight back in more meaningful ways.
Worse option is exiling American citizens, tanking the economy, persecuting minorities, taking away rights, ignoring the constitution and, notably, full backing genocide in Gaza.
Bad option would not act to stop genocide in Gaza.
Clearly the same thing.
Worse option is exiling American citizens, tanking the economy, persecuting minorities, taking away rights, ignoring the constitution and, notably, full backing genocide in Gaza.
I saw all of these things happen under the past few “bad options”.
Fuck you
We had a bad choice and a worse choice. So i said
let it all fall.I’m a sociopath that’s fine with seeing minorities being brutalized and killed so long as I can maintain some kind of bullshit ideological purity.FTFY
Now I voted (not that it would have mattered as Kamala was going to win my state regardless), but for the sake of argument I also didn’t see minorities NOT being brutalized and killed under Biden or Obama. Or Clinton for that matter.
I think you dropped this:
- supported genocide
- supported an unpopular president
- ran on unpopular policies
- let the voters know that she didn’t care about what they wanted
- wanted to keep the US military the “most lethal fighting force” despite the fact that we use them to kill innocent people
- gaslit the voters on the economy
Is Trump still worse? yes, absolutely. But maybe the Democrats could try running candidates that aren’t obviously terrible if they want to win.
That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump. The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth. But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.
I only really saw those criticisms of her from people already on the left. What I saw (in generalized and slightly exaggerated manner) from conservatives was, “NO, SHE’S A LIBERAL, WOKE, COMMUNIST WHO WANTS TO DESTROY AMERICA!”
To which most people I saw on the left respond with, “Communist? The former cop and DA?”
At least she isn’t nazi, traitor, piece of shit like Trump.
She absolutely is a Nazi. A nice Nazi that supported genocide.
Liberals have supported plenty of genocides.
As have socialists.
You could say this about nearly any group in history.
Right, and when socialists and actual liberals do it they’re being ideological hypocrites as opposed to fascists who literally don’t believe in human rights.
She’s not a Nazi, she’s a hypocritical liberal.
You are a moron.
You support genocide, just not when it’s GOP branded.
Call me names, it doesn’t change the facts at all.
No. You are a fool.
Good point. Read some books.
If you didn’t turn out to vote you didn’t oppose trump.
I said criticism, you think no one who opposed Trump should have criticised former cop who built her career on locking people up?
ACAB, just not one of the worst kind?
She was an attorney working for the executive branch, not a cop. Applying for a job higher up in the executive branch. If we are going to call everyone who executes the laws bastards, then you can’t vote for anybody to join the executive branch, as you are willingly choosing to make them a bastard apparently.
Just so everyone is on the same page, to you the slogan All Cops Are Bastards applies not to all corrupt people in the legal system that abuse us and imprison us, but it’s exclusively police officers?
Just checking.
Downvote and run away.
That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump.
Yes it was. It was a dumb and invalid argument, but it came up more often than it ever should have. It was an EXCUSE to not vote for her, because it was easier to say that than to admit that they’re just afraid of a woman in power.
I realize there were many more valid reasons to dislike her but compared to trump, she’s a goddamn saint. Plus, I liked her VP pick better than trump’s. She also would have selected a much more competent and qualified cabinet.
The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.
Those are all valid criticisms, but trump built his career as a criminal, is deporting people for minor offenses, fighting to deport innocent people to prison labor camps in countries they are not even from, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.
So comparing the two with just those criticisms, it’s a wash. And then adding on all the other AWFUL shit trump is doing, especially “project 2025,” it’s no contest.
But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.
I’m not whitewashing anything, I made a sarcastic comment mocking the misogynists who have put a LITERAL AUTHORITARIAN MADMAN in the presidency because they couldn’t handle a woman president.
When our choices are : lesser evil or absolute evil (and the third choice is: just let absolute evil win), we really can’t let petty things like “annoying laugh” (again- just a lame excuse for misogyny) go.
I was accused of having “blood in my hands” for voting for Harris. But really, protest voting against Harris is drenching yourself in that same blood plus gallons more.
This is untrue.
Every criticism presented is completely true. She would have been better than trump, but she was a terrible Democratic candidate. She would have made a better Republican candidate. Her campaign would only needed to have focused on her prosecutorial career.
Hope the next election (if there is one) goes your way and the candidate is perfect.
That, but unironically.
Winning a presidential election isn’t about the votes that are cast. It’s about the voters that stay home. It’s really difficult to get people to the polls when your entire platform is “a little less evil than the other guy.”.
I voted for the lesser evil, and I know why so many did not. You do us no favors by refusing to recognize that the lesser evil is still evil.
