Linda at the bottom there “I am pleased with the extralegal concentration camps, mass deportations, and arrest/abduction of citizens who just aren’t white enough. The jackbooted thugs with no legal oversight or accountability are great. But what else has he done for me lately?”
Fucking fascist ghoul
That was my favorite part too.
“I haven’t noticed any real difference!” What… were you expecting?
Hopefully her kids are embarrassed of her already and her legacy is “clueless dumbfuck”
“Clueless” is being generous. It’s more like “hateful dumbfuck”.
The trouble is that, despite noticing that everything else is a lie, they still believe that ICE is only deporting people who ‘deserve it’, rather than paying any attention to the constant reports of ICE throwing people who are legally in the USA in vans and disappearing them.
I missed the ANTIFA riots. I guess Evan and I don’t get our news from the same sources.
It’s amazing that this administration is so spectacularly bad that even its propaganda machine can’t hide it.
Worse, the antifa riots rethoric is held against them. It looks like people start to wonder why these riots were allowed to start under the current administration.
And who spells it in all caps? What does each letter stand for, Evan? Is it an acronym, or a portmanteau of anti-fascism? Evan is losing me, to be honest 😒
Did you not see the dancing dinosaurs, grannies, naked cyclists, and the chicken man viciously intimidating Kristi Nome?
It’s awful out there. Truly terrifying.
Not to mention the frogs. Oh god the frogs!!
Kristi Nome
Krusty Gnome? :D
Indeed
Propublica just had an article where they dived into just fox news’ coverage of portland and apparently they spice up their footage with pictures of the 2020 riots every time they mention portland.
To the point where it may be possible the city of portland could probably sue fox for defamation.
I missed the ANTIFA riots.
Conspiracy theories paint fraudulent reality of Jan. 6 riot
Several different conspiracy theories have emerged in the year since the insurrection, according to an analysis of online content by media intelligence firm Zignal Labs on behalf of The Associated Press. Unfounded claims that the rioters were members of antifa went viral first, only to be overtaken by a baseless claim blaming FBI operatives.
Pretty sure they were referring to the protests in LA, Portland, etc. which conservative propaganda has successfully painted as “riots.”
Jan 6 was almost 6 years ago, and these people are talking about the current regime.
“I am pleased with the results on the border.”
How are these people calling themselves Christians?
This is where unlucky asylum seekers have to stay between 2 days to more than half a year. People entering as legally.
You can’t bring any items like a book inside and you can’t leave except for food time in cafetaria like some prison with no yard-time. Just sit still and sleep until we process your papers in 4 months.
Ours had walls instead of cage thankfully but toilet was inside with no door. This was the conditions in 2018.
“Pleased” said the love-thy-neighbor Christian, “satisfied.”
How are these people calling themselves Christians?
It starts with portraying Jesus as a white dude…
How are these people calling themselves Christians?
Anyone familiar with the history of the church can answer this.
How are these people calling themselves Christians?
Where did they call themselves Christians?
IMO, it takes a special type of double-think to believe that what ICE is doing is loving our neighbors. I sincerely hope they are not actually Christian.
Maybe not these people specifically, but most of the GOP base identifies as Christian.
I would say that’s most.
Look at all the white oeople supporting the republicans. No surprises there
66% is most.
A lot of those areas are under 60%. If you exclude the two top categories (evangelical Protestant and Mormon), it’s much closer to 50/50.
The real problem IMO is the evangelicals Protestants. Those are much more based around influential individuals (megachurches/TV preachers) rather than community or religious tenants.
The infographic makes no claim about the size of each group, just the left/right split within each group. You cannot draw such a conclusion from that data alone. This is a common misunderstanding in statistics when dealing with conditional probability.
Here is an infographic showing the inverse, religious affiliation given party affiliation.
This indicates both parties are majority Christian, the Republican party overwhelmingly so.
Thanks, that is a much better infographic.
Any idea why Jewish people are more predominantly Democrat than Republican?
Self-proclaimed religiousness is one of the main things for conservatives no?
That’s the beauty of it. They’re brown so they dont matter apparently
Can someone link me to the ANTIFA-riots? (I don’t trust Evans words for it, I’m just not a “trust me, bro”-kind of guy…)
What are you for one moment insinuating that a conservative on Facebook might have less than reputable sources for their information?
I mean, he could be a russian bot or an absolute braindead idiot, who knows?
There are none. Right wing propaganda media made the baseless claims that the No Kings protests were antifa riots.
I think he’s kidding.
I hope.
God fuck this timeline, I can’t tell either now.
(I totally am. Of course “Evan” is just an idiot. Or russian.)
No, hes not kidding.
Let me find that article on the Dunning-Kruger Times…
Not really trying to hide the racism anymore, are they?
I mean I’ve been paying attention to politics for the last 20-25 years now and I’ve known all along the Republican party had a racism problem, but the current boldness of it, almost flaunting of it, is still catching me by surprise.
I could have never imagined seeing the world’s wealthiest man fire off two seig heils on stage at a Presidential Inauguration (with literally nothing coming of it), back during GWB’s administration.
Nope.
The goalposts have moved completely off the field at this point. It’s clear that conservatives cannot be trusted and should never, under any circumstances, be allowed to aggregate power.
I can only hope it’s all so extreme that in the long run it helps bury this traitorous party and confine them to the shitpile of history.
I feel like we figured this out in 1945, and the 1911 .45 still works very well.
Faux news absolutely lost their fucking minds when Obama tossed a salute at a jarhead while gasp holding a coffee. Wave a sign of respect to one of your guards while being black…they scream for weeks.
Actively salute a North Korean officer while being orange or seig heil while white and rich…totally patriotic and cool what’s he gonna do tomorrow.
This shit is making me lose sanity
Like that Kanye character openly selling swastikas on his site just after dumpy got in power
I find it horrific that people can say this ugly shit out loud “pleased with ICE”… how does “being happy” with dehumanizing other people make you happy ?
I need to throw up and have a long shower.
I bet if I sent this to either one of my parents, they’d be like, “yeah? me too.”
I am super glad even as I came from white cis parents into a white cis town, I rolled homo and got the minority perspective because otherwise I’d be one of them. My mom really believes “democrats buy off blacks with welfare so they keep voting for them” and other such mind-bogglers I can’t anymore.
This is the problem with people who don’t understand social control. Welfare is not a handout from Democrats, it is a mechanism of social control the government uses.
People are so brainwashed they don’t understand the issues anymore. I wonder why Fox News doesn’t tell the the truth.
Not always true, I’m white, cis, and straight born to conservative Christian parents but fell out of that line of thinking by my teenage years. A lot of it really was just learning and understanding history and politics. Making friends with black kids early on might have helped as well.
As long as you are intelligent you likely would have figured it out on your own.
I know I was figuring it out myself even before I had any idea I was queer. This was back in 2018 or 19 when the big outrage was Ukraine aid being held hostage. It took until the second term for me to no longer be civil with anybody who did support Trump. Figuring out that I was queer just put another nail in the coffin that was already sealed shut
Is that a real question? Do you want to stare into the abyss on that one¹?
¹it’s really stupid.
Maybe the issue is that we continually insist on humanizing words and actions like this, and by extension, the people that generate them. Or at least, assuming that the origin of these kinds of thoughts is kin to us.
Studies of the typical C level boardroom execs show a distinct inclination towards sociopathy or outright psycopathy. Monetary success is the reward for empathy-free ruthlessness, and money is the means to spread your genes (a lukewarm hello to Elon and his bound concubines). There is a selection pressure for being less empathetic. Less sentient and conscious of one’s actions when framed in a larger context of their effects on others.
This is (to me at least) evidence that they are either at best, maladapted humans, or at worse then initial offshoot of a less empathetic subspecies. We’re not privy to recognize the intersections and points-of-no-return in any given species’ evolution in nature. We tend to organize it all into a neat tree so we can teach it in biology.
But once, long ago, we had cousins in the genus Homo. It’s pretty myopic to think our branch won’t ever bifurcate ever again: of course it will (has?).
(Heavy sigh).
I don’t know what this says about how we should treat this type of… disorder, from an ethical, empathetic or fitness position. Or about me. Probably enough to make a therapist weep openly about all of it.
At some point though, species eventually compete, but I suppose the silver lining is we’ll eventually be unable to produce fertile offspring with conservatives, and they will haaaaate that.
I’m also not advocating that we de-humanize them (a subspecies is still in the same species!), but we shouldn’t kid ourselves about a) all being animals that evolved and b) how we’re thought of by them.
Notice he said that they are “losing” him, not already lost.
Still fine enough with everything so far. I’m always wondering what it would take to actually turn people like this.
One bad thing happening directly to them. They have no empathy. Being “pleased” with how ICE is doing is proof positive of that.
The “ICE took my wife” guy still loves trump. For most of these people losing their job or their house is basically the only path to changing their politics
I’m always wondering what it would take to actually turn people like this.
Direct, negative consequences. They’re upset as they watch their lives slowly get worse, and they see inaction on that from the administration.
But if that administration says “we will be taking $5,000 in taxes from your paycheck” or “we are going to forcibly house a military member in your home because fuck the constitution”, that is when they actually make the mental connection between politician they support and bad consequences that have only now directly harmed them.
Otherwise, they just see it as “damn, I guess politicians really are just kinda annoying and don’t like doing much to help me. Oh well!” and not “This politician just hurt me”, even if a politician never improving your life as it endlessly gets worse is still a measurable harm.
lol “the antisemitism crackdowns” risks losing him XD
What does he mean by this? 🤔
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Zios are commiting a genocide.
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Some people protested. They were violently attacked and labelled “anti-semites.”
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The state started making laws against “anti-semitism” in order to attack anti-genocide activists.
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Actual anti-semites like this guy get mad even though they would never be targeted for their actual anti-semitism.
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he hates the JOOOOOZZZZZ
“I’m beginning to think the guy is not gonna come back with the drugs we paid for. We gave him the right amount, didn’t we? Maybe something happened to him, maybe the cops got him.”
How do I get in on these Antifa riots?
You have to apply, like all paid jobs. They only accept minorities, not white ones. They bring face paint and other props so acting like you’ve been tear gassed looks realistic. You have know the director to get a brick to throw during the police encounter. All of this is /s FYI
/s for secret, of course.
It’s almost as though state violence against people you have an abstract hatred of doesn’t actually help you in any way.
These people are entirely motivated by hate. I knew that, but it’s kinda wild to see them admit it like this.
Hey, that’s not fair! They’re also motivated by fear, disgust, and selfishness.
Don’t forget greed, apathy, and general stupidity.
The fuck’s wrong with Chinese students?
Their hidden backdoors.
I wouldn’t mind having some Chinese students expose me to their backdoor, unless they’re too young of course.
That’s the best part tho.
Unless you’re talking about computer security. 🤔
They are from China! Lol
Okay like of course this perspective is vile. I would never defend it. The people I refer to below are not the same people represented in this tweet.
But the right’s justification for anti immigration makes sense to people. Its the oldest trick in the book! Artificial scarcity? Housing crisis? Employment crisis? Some of us have a rigorous class analysis that can neatly disprove these lies, part of why red scares are such a fundamental component of the right’s culture war (a component many progressive liberals accept unquestioningly.)
But for the average person who doesnt think about stuff that way, the working/middle class swing voter who is simultaneously directly affected by economic and political oppression but deeply confused about the underlying causes, how do we convince them? The pendulum has flipped and Trumps policies are deeply unpopular, but what is the convincing explanation that the whole basis of their logic is flawed? How do we prove that immigrants aren’t the problem?
Its like in avengers, thanos says he will kill half of all people in order to end scarcity in the universe. And none of the heroes even questions his logic. The attitude is like, he’s a bad guy but it would still work. And, no it wouldn’t, scarcity in advanced society is driven by class, not population. Malthus was thoroughly disproved like 150 years ago and yet this myth persists (like the myth of immigration and race-based scarcity).
Because as long as our political strategy amounts to “shame anyone who demonstrates an affective affinity with the right, and vote” we won’t be able to resist the creeping threat of fascism. In 5-10 years it will be full on Nazi shit and I dont want to die in a concentration camp please and thank you
I think you’re trying really fucking hard to pretend that there are people there worth saving and it eats at me that your perspective is not only popular, but common.
These people are irredeemable. Their primary goals are to hurt others for their inalienable traits.
You don’t need these people. When the common opinion was such that they had to hide their shitty opinions, everyone was better off for it.
What you need, is people who don’t pay attention to pay attention. Stop focusing on the magas. You can never find compromise with them, nor convince them with reason, because all of the arguments they give are fundementally based on “I hate that person because they are the out group”.
That trumps literally everything else to them, as you are clearly seeing here. They are not outliers. Thats the common maga mentality.
You doing mental gymnastics to pretend that the common person just has to be good is a coping strategy that is killing you.
Because as long as our political strategy amounts to “shame anyone who demonstrates an affective affinity with the right, and vote”
When has that been anyones political strategy. Thats what the right says it is (instead its trying to sell people on a DNC lead democrat party that fundementally does not want to offer noteworthy change).
Firstly, we should shame them, because the right wing is demonstrably awful, and pretending it has merit does no favours. That is what the DNC wants to do, and has done for the past… very long time.
So shame is not the solution, but its also not the problem.
Instead, the problem is that an average person here’s 2 people put up some arguments, doesnt think about it further, thinks “ah well both sides” and then stops thinking.
Left leaning people often don’t help this as they screech more loudly about the party closest to actually being moldable into something positive than they do the party doing harm, which helps keep precisely the group they need to convince the most in that valley of “both people are shouting, both sides I guess” and then that person stops caring.
Also,
we won’t be able to resist the creeping threat of fascism.
Creeping threat??? You’re currently trying to fight your way out and you call it a creeping threat. Just part of the problems.
My opinion on the world is that 50% of people don’t really care all that much about anything and have an extremely mild positive bias, 30% of people are just awful, and focus more on hurting others than making things better, and then 20% are the inverse of the 30%.
Your “solution” involves somehow convincing that 30% instead of figuring out whats stopping that 50% from figuring out how this will personally affect them, and to snap out of they’re “both sides” voter apathy/general apathy delusion.
Part of the problem is that their position is self defeating. They think nothing works, everything is corrupt, and so there is no point doing anything, and that entrenches all of those problems, making them even worse.
Thats the real struggle; getting them both to see the personal threat to themselves (as they don’t care about the larger picture) and then getting them to see that they do in fact have none bloody death alternatives to that.
All of this just emphasizes how disastrous it was that the democrats folded and didn’t let people see the consequences of their actions with the government shutdown.
One thing alone would help shift the Overton Window MASSIVELY in a country like the USA - mandatory voting. If everyone who had the right to vote actually voted, Republicans would never hold federal government ever again and would only be able to hold onto a couple of states and a few dozen local governments across the nation.
Without mandatory voting, Republicans can become more and more egregious in seeking to rally voters while simultaneously painting the whole establishment as broken which essentially disenfranchises the non-voting centre. With it, they’d have to seriously moderate their platforms to have any hope of forming government ever again. It would likely cause a party split that would then coalesce again into a two-party coalition on the right, starting the efforts to break down the two-party system.
If you introduce ranked choice voting as well, that’ll speed up the dismantling of the two-party system, but just mandatory voting alone would prevent Trump and his ilk from ever being in power again.
One thing alone would help shift the Overton Window MASSIVELY in a country like the USA - mandatory voting. If everyone who had the right to vote actually voted, Republicans would never hold federal government ever again and would only be able to hold onto a couple of states and a few dozen local governments across the nation.
The problem with “solutions” like this (and I actually don’t even think this would fix things vs any number of other solutions in a similar vein), is that these aren’t solutions. These are vague wishlist goals, and very much so have all the hard parts of getting there removed.
Like I think every country having proportional representation would improve the quality of their politicians and government massively, but good luck getting the establishment politicians who benefit from the old system to give that up.
If you introduce ranked choice voting as well,
Im always super shocked at why anyone likes ranked choice voting. It doesnt actually solve the 2 party system at all.
Proportional voting is what solves that. Ranked choice just means that 2 party system has a slightly higher chance of changing who the 2 parties are.
This is the part that always gets me laughing. At the level of effort that would be necessary to actually get voting reform, we might as well just overthrow the government. That is how difficult it would be, it would require a nationwide coordinated mass movement hitherto unseen in the United States, and it would only really solve one of our problems.
I think it would actually solve a huge swath of problems, but absolutely yes its ridiculous to state as a solution just as we both agree.
As for the overthrowing the government part, I think that given they’re both at the same levels of difficulty, Id probably opt for the one that also accomplishes the practical goals and doesnt end up in half of us being bloody pulp on the ground.
it really doesn’t. It would start the process of fixing the problems, but you then still need to take money out of politics, curb the right-wing misinformation machine, introduce and pass widespread economic, education, and equality reform, all the while billionaires will continue to do everything in their power to bribe the multitude of parties to halt progress.
If they’re both the same level of difficulty, I’d rather fix all the problems at once, rather than take step one of a hundred.
If they’re both the same level of difficulty, I’d rather fix all the problems at once
Neither fixes all the problems at once. People keep holding onto the ideas of some hail mary that wins the “game” and it aint coming.
Proportional representation would break 2 party and be one of many steps. People would be able to vote for one of many parties and no0 longer would throwing away your vote with a third party be a thing.
rather than take step one of a hundred.
Many steps is the only way to eventually fix things. Your basically faced with a highly liable to fail, bloody fictional solution you wont do, and the long, diet and exercise you swear wont work.
Wow you’re really cheesed. Like I said in my first sentence, I don’t support those views or people with those views. Ive worked with people who are do try to reach over and convince the MAGAs and frankly they’re the worst. I’m not one of them I’m asking a question about the middle, the exact folks you are talking about.
But to someone who genuinely thinks that immigration threatens their jobs, their logic based in the education they received, the news they consume, the ambient culture.
My question is how do you do that? How do you reach the people in the middle who are most affected, fearful, worried, and hence easy to manipulate ideologically?
Explain to me, a regular person just trying to get by, how immigration doesnt affect me. Convince me.
What “solution” did I even offer? I asked a fucking question. This is legit the most bad faith response ive ever received.
Is this how you engage in political discourse? You just blow up at whoever you’re talking to? Assume they are evil and stupid? Let me ask you, who are you recruiting to the cause? What real work are you doing to help people and resist fascism? Are you just getting mad at people you made up in your head? Im pretty sure you aren’t doing shit, because people who are doing the work dont act like this. Fucking relax.
Wow you’re really cheesed.
Is this how you engage in political discourse? You just blow up at whoever you’re talking to? Assume they are evil and stupid?
Fucking relax.
Jumping to trolling with the comment equivalent to “u mad bro?” while pretending to care about civility is wild.
This is legit the most bad faith response ive ever received.
This right here is straight projection, especially given clearly some others thought my comment fit perfectly/was a reasonable interpretation of yours.
What “solution” did I even offer?
Because as long as our political strategy amounts to “shame anyone who demonstrates an affective affinity with the right, and vote” we won’t be able to resist the creeping threat of fascism. In 5-10 years it will be full on Nazi shit and I dont want to die in a concentration camp please and thank you
You are clearly suggesting that not shaming the fascists is part of the solution here and now you’re feigning ignorance to having said that.
Explain to me, a regular person just trying to get by, how immigration doesnt affect me. Convince me.
and
I asked a fucking question.
Yeah, nah. Now, with the rest of the comment as context this seems more like an effort to sealion than a real question, especially with you saying:
Explain to me, a regular person just trying to get by, how immigration doesnt affect me. Convince me.
Which completely changes who you’re portraying yourself to be and asks me to waste my time with a right wing talking point that is now suddenly the focus, as if the uncaring people think this is a major point anyways.
I probably spent to much effort responding to this comment that is clearly actually in bad faith.
I mean look at this shit:
What real work are you doing to help people and resist fascism? Are you just getting mad at people you made up in your head? Im pretty sure you aren’t doing shit, because people who are doing the work dont act like this.
Pure right wing, 4chan style ragebait trolling.
No Epstein Files
DEMS LITERALLY JUST LEAKED ANOTHER BATCH OF EMAILS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein_client_list
WE HAVE THE CLIENT LISTS. THE FLIGHT LOGS. THE BIRTHDAY BOOK. WE. HAVE. THE. DOCUMENTS.
STOP SAYING THERE’S NO EPSTEIN FILES.
ISIS in the White House
FFS.
Wow, released today! Source:
In September 2025, Bloomberg News obtained 18,000 emails from Epstein’s personal account.
On November 12, 2025, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released three emails that had been subpoenaed from the Epstein estate:
…
Epstein said Trump was the “dog that hasn’t barked” because Trump had “spent hours at my house” with a victim. The victim’s name was redacted from public view. Epstein added: “he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75% there”. Maxwell replied: “I have been thinking about that…”
Unrelated:
ISIS in the White House
What does that even mean?
What does that even mean?
I guess the visit by Syrian president Ahmed al-Sharaa, who was on the terrorist list just days before, and is suspected of being involved in the 9/11 attacks as a member of Al Qaida.
Sure, but Al Qaeda hates ISIS, they’re direct rivals.
Yeah but the idiot in the post doesn’t know that and doesn’t care. He’d probably label any Syrian citizen as an ISIS agent for no reason at all.
What does that even mean?
Your guess is as good as mine.
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