• Devial@discuss.online
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    To quote Hbomberguy:

    “The anti vaccine movement had next to no evidence [27] years ago, and they have even less today”

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    Actually no. Pollution has been identified as a potential cause. Why don’t you do something about that?

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      If the problem falls under the purview of one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, the facists in charge are for it. If it doesn’t, the fascist are keeping it that way on purpose.

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      I am.pretty sure the only “cause” is that society has become more open and accepting in general so people who have these various “new issues” that idiots like to boogeyman over are just, not supressing themselves as much or you know, suiciding over society treating them like shit as much.

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      A lot of them been so indoctrinated into mistrusting authorities and instutions, that they basically disbelieve anything they say on principle.

      And al the evidence, all the scientists telling them they’re wrong just ends up reinforcing their belief in some giant conspiracy.

      It’s sadly been shown in more than one study that changing the mind of conspiracy theorists with reason, argumens or evidence is basically impossible. It’s almost a self preservation instict against cognitive dissonance. They were so sure they were right, and now so one is telling them they’re not. That feels shit, and it feels shit to accept you were wrong about something you so fervently insisted was true. So their brains basically go into self defense mode, and just reject and attack anything that threatens the shaky fundamentals of their entire belief system. The best thing you can attmept to do is to distract them. Get them to talk and think about other things. When they mention the conspiracy, don’t engage, don’t argue how they’re wrong, they’ll just dig their heels in deeper, just change the topic to something else. Force them to spend less time in their delusions. Eventually, if you’re lucky, they might gain enough distance to the topic, and stop caring about it enough that they’re ready to start accepting how batshit insane those conspiracies are.

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        It is called “dismantling the foundation” and is first step in creating an army of human robots.

        If you are able to change people to believe based on emotions rather than logic, you have a tool to change beliefs at your will. Because emotions can be controlled, pure logic can not.

        And all this works, because thinking logically takes more power than thinking emotionally, and many people never start to do harden their foundation by logically test it regularly but just accept it as given to them, making it more easy to dismantle this foundation by pointing out things that seem fishy on first thought.

        Then the foundation is rebuilt and hardened by repeating and repeating, until it is hard enough to withstand logic.

        Society works like that, it works because we have shared foundations, and the more the foundations drift apart in a community the more conflict appear

        Therefore, it is critical for a society to keep foundation in sync. This is why a working society needs spirituality, culture, rituals. For many communities, this is achieved through religion.

        Sadly, most religions are designed so that you have masters deciding on how this foundation should look like, rather than have it evolve democratically.

        I experienced a community design based democratic values while I was in boyscout (which is gendermixed in my country). There we had rituals, cultures and even spirituality. But we as well were teached that while rituals and rules are important, it is very important to still go with the flow of time and make it possible to adjust them. They don’t work well, if they are forced upon next generation the way the oldies did, what is important is, that the older generation can teach the next generation the why, not the how.
        Knowing the why makes it possible for the next generation to adjust the how to work in the new times to still achieve the why.

        That is my problem I have with religion, they mostly teach the how but not the why, or better said replace the why with some good/bad shit like hell and heaven, while people should just learn that we all profit if we care for each other, if we talk to each other, if we mention different opinions, if we try to understand other opinions rather than protecting our own without questioning.

        😊🙏🏻

        I wish humanity had more spirituality just because it is nice, because some fantasy god demands it.

        Haha

        Damn got that far

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        Also, for many of these people, do not underestimate the underlying religous issue. In the case of vaccines, its becomes some sort of “mark of the beast” nonsense. See also the dumb “microchips in the vaccines” stupidity.

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      Former anti-vaxxer here, I personally did. I looked for any excuse to avoid that goddamn needle. Long story short: I have pain hypersensitivity, so it hurts a lot more, not to mention I met a lot of doctors who did it in a really clumsy way in my life.

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    First, that is not your child. It is a fucking elephant.

    Second, I don’t care if the elephant says it has a high tolerance. You don’t shoot up anything with this much smack.

    Third, labeling this poor junkie elephant as an aspie is just cruel and unusual.

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      First, that is not your child. It is a fucking elephant.

      Finally someone addresses the elephant in the room!

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    Technically vaccines are related to diagnosis in that one must be alive to be diagnosed

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    “How can we let the reader know that the elephant in the room has autism?”

    “Well, how about if we have it wear a button that says, 'I have autism”, you know, like people with autism do?"

    “Brilliant! And how do we let the reader know that the autism is from vaccinations?”

    “Easy! We just show a bunch of hypodermic syringes sticking out of it, like all of those vaccine-loving cuck doctors just stabbed it and left them there.”

    “Did they bother to depress the syringe and inject the vaccine?”

    “Nope!”

    “Brilliant!”

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      it’s the faces, the character shapes, but really that yellow hue across the image. Perhaps someone with some color theory knowledge could explain why ChatGPT generates images like that.

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        For me it’s the scale and perspective that stood out first. Both people are the same size on-screen but the one on the right is also supposed to be closer so they’re actually huge, but they also have a tiny chair. Both chairs are also pointed away from the TV which is as big as a person, but they’re also somehow not facing each other so the closer person still has to turn around. The seat on the left would have to be pushed right up against the wall but they somehow managed to fit a lamp behind it too.

        It just feels very strange as someone with first-hand experience of 3d space.

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        Basically AI is started to poison itself, and AI has no concept of color grading, so errors are adding up. I don’t know if GLAZE and other poisoning methods made the matters worse, but wouldn’t be surprised.

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        I read that it’s due to model collapse - the AIs are now trained on their own AI-generated content, like all the auto generated ghibli-style images with yellow tint

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        Not necessarily color theory, but archived comics from the 1970s and prior tend to be yellowed from degradation on their original prints (which were then scanned). It could also be the colors available to print artists at the time which were more muted compared to today.

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          Although it really only happened recently. If you look at older generated images, they don’t have the yellow colouration.

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            In that case, I guess that potential vector is moot. Although it could be that data wasn’t available until recent training of the weights.

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        I wonder if it’s a white balance thing, as in the setting you’d see on a camera or in a post processing tool.

        For instance, consider that “soft” or “warm” light bulbs (say 3000K and below) are common in cozy indoor areas. They cast a much more yellow color of light compared with a daylight bulb or actual daylight, which will look very blue in comparison.

        It’s like the model detected that the image was people in a living room and it applied a warm white balance to the whole picture because most images of a family in the living room have warm lighting globally.

        But since it is a machine and apparently has not yet been explicitly taught that comics generally have bright colors and no strange tints, then it does not adjust accordingly.

        I wonder if that is even giving it too much credit. Maybe it’s just the deterioration from all the iterations of garbage in, garbage out.

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        Afaik imgen ai starts with a salt and pepper noise image (randomised grey values, or maybe even randomised colour values). It then pushes and pulls the image in the direction of its learned nodes and weights.

        So typically an imgen ai will generate images with a very even distribution of value (light and dark). It will have difficulty generating a picture like a Rembrandt painting with high light/dark contrasts. It probably can’t generate pictures with a lot of dark and one small bright spot. At least not out of the box.

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        There’s definitely a sepia tone on most of it. Weird. Why would they go with a red flag so frequently?

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      Someday artists are going to struggle to replicate this “look” in order to make memes and jokes.

      On the sides of our cave walls.

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      I cannot work out why it’s an elephant. Probably because that’s just whatever the AI came up with and for some reason they just pick the first result

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        Or because the idiom “the elephant in the room” is being depicted literally (insinuating their medicated autistic child is ‘an unfortunate unwanted fact’ - which I personally feel is derogatory to the child)

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    You know it’s a good comic when they have to explain it with the I have autism pin.